Rob,

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Rob Myers <r...@robmyers.org> wrote:

>
> Knowledge can be spread through the Internet more effectively than other
> communication systems.
>
> And the knowledge it spreads need not be limited to clean water.
>
> I once listened to an Indian activist explaining that, actually,
> villagers do need computers. They help stop their crops failing...
>
>
you know that i am perfectly in synch with that.
i have a website that is called "art is open source" with very specific
content on it :)

i was suggesting that the "question" was placed in terms that were too
simplistic

talk about problems of the planet and the internet?
the computer you are using is part of the problem. the electricity you are
using is part of the problem. the people working at the ISP to allow for
monthly bandwith at 21.99£ a month are part of the problem. the clothes you
are wearing are part of the problem. the battery of your laptop is part of
the problem. some of the things you ate for dinner are part of the problem.
the way that you give for granted that a certain organization of "time" is
"normal" is part of the problem. and so on.

this takes nothing out from the concept that "internet" is fundamental, that
learning about "how things work" (be them computers, software, pills, solar
panels or water filtering techniques) is fundamental and that (as someone
suggested) learning the methodologic-performative form of thought-action
that is programming, is fundamental.

but it still remains "part of the problem".

which is wider. and it has to do with "what we take for granted", and what
we feel is "normal" or "acceptable". It is a problem of awareness and of
culture.

as we have seen, open source, free software, hacking & C. have brought up
insightful mental frameworks to think about "the whole thing". But i am
really fascinated by (and see opportunity in) the scenarios in which we take
a wider approach.


this is a time of change. in times of change people tend to give names to
things. which is fine, but let's not loose contact with the fact that we're
still learning how to deal with a new world configuration.

we're like many Charlie Chaplins in "Modern Times": still cumbersome and
unprepared for what we're facing. in the movie it was industry and a new
mediated, authoritarian, experience of time. For us it is the digital age as
intended by governments and large, planetary operators (be them financial,
technological, energetic or whatever)


i'm sure many (all?!?) of you perfectly understand and maybe even agree to
that. i am just not comfortable with "questions" placed in a narrower
perspective, and i wanted to point it out, as i thought it could be useful
to opening the discussion to a larger perspective.

ciao!
xDxD
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