We don't need a ranking of digital artists - but I think there is one. It's just a secret ;)
best Simon On 2 Nov 2011, at 18:11, Eduardo Valle wrote: > Dear Simon, > > The interesting point about this site is not the ranking itself , but HOW > this ranking is made, what are the criterias ? > > How an artist "gets points" in this ranking ? > > For example, two years ago, when Cildo Meireles, the first brazilian > conceptual artist who had an retrospective in Tate , at that time he was > between the top 100. > > It is just an example how this ranking works. > > Art Power from Art Review is another criteria , HOW does it works ? > > Until now there is no ranking for digital art, as far as i know. > > Best Regards, > Duda > > From: si...@littlepig.org.uk > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:45:30 +0000 > To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Is the history of art repeating itself ? A > geopolitical analysis and comparison of contemporary art and electronic art > > Just looked myself up on this site. I didn't expect to be there - but I am. > My value is falling, from 8000ish in 2008 to 12000ish. The graph looks like > the value of the UK Pound against the Australian dollar. What a weird way to > think about artists and art. But I feel put in my place, that's for sure. I'm > nowhere's ville... > > For what it's worth, the top rated artist who routinely uses digital media is > probably Andreas Gursky at 32. However, he's not a digital artist as such. He > uses the computer as a tool, not a medium. I doubt he considers computational > processes as essential to the conceptual nature of his practice or the > resultant artefacts. Christian Marclay is similar, at 96, as is Muntadas at > 254. > > The highest ranking artist who I'd consider a practitioner who does emphasise > the computer in their practice is Peter Weibel at 358. But that is strange as > he is better known as an educator, administrator or curator than a > practitioner. Cao Fei is more like it, at 418. Lozano-Hemmer is at 751 and > Otto Piene at 843. But none of these artists are really digital artists in > the sense I understand that term. Manfred Mohr appears to be the top rated > artist who uses computation as central in his work, at 1119. So, it's nice to > know that a digital artist almost gets into the top 1000. That is reassuring. > Manfred gives us hope. > > Not sure why Ai Wei Wei is at 401 when he recently topped the art power list? > The list seems arbitrary, with major names quite far down and people I've > never heard of near the top (although I do not read art magazines anymore as > they are just full of advertising). Oh well, that was 15 minutes of my life > wasted - but it saves me reading the magazines, I hope. > > best > > Simon > > > On 2 Nov 2011, at 16:53, Eduardo Valle wrote: > > Dear Rob, > > Thanks for you comments. > > I agree that is a question of scale and also time, if you think that one of > the majors Festivals related to the digital art > is about 30 years old (Ars Eletronica), but the pattern is already repeating > on a diferent scale. > > About the data they came from sites on the web : > > the galleries dedicated to digital art and their casting : bitforms , Bryce > Wolkowitz, Postmastersart, Numeriscausa, Fabio Paris, DAM Berlin, DAM Cologne > and Island6 (Shangai) > > the data from Ars Eletronica - from the site of ars eletronica > > The data about artists ranking on the investor site: www.artfacts.net > > The data about collectors: www.artnews.com > > * Here is point obscure where i can find data about collectors on digital > art ? > > Fairs: ArtBasel and SP Arte - from their sites > > As you can see on the Conceptual Map: The Web of Art there are lot of others > instances and players to be explored in terms of data and i didnt analyse the > relationship > between them , i just showed some data about 5 instances and players. It is > also important to say that the data is not analysed in a scientific way (stat > tests, big samples) it was only a "scan". > > The work that i develop is about conceptual maps and in this case i separate > the one called The Web of Art and analyse that in geopolitical terms and made > a comparison about contemporary and electronic. Another important point is to > notice that in the two conceptual maps about The Fairs , is that i am showing > that what can be periphery in one place can be a center in another place. > > Looking forward to hear from you. > > best regards, Duda Valle > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:37:50 +0000 > > From: r...@robmyers.org > > To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org > > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Is the history of art repeating itself ? A > > geopolitical analysis and comparison of contemporary art and electronic art > > > > On 30/10/11 13:28, Eduardo Valle wrote: > > > You will find attach a presentation on the Rewire conference in Liverpool. > > > > > > If this is not the correct procedure and if the subject is not relevant > > > in this list , please let me know. > > > > It's entirely correct and relevant. :-) Thank you for sending this. > > > > The complaint that digital artists always make about the difference > > between the contemporary and digital artworlds is that there is > > precisely no money in the digital artworld. Looking at your presentation > > that looks like a simple product of relative scale. Do you think that's > > right? > > > > I'm very interested in analysing art and the artworld using data at the > > moment. Did you use any particular sources for your statistics or are > > they the product of trawling through the paperwork? > > > > - Rob. > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > Simon Biggs > si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk @SimonBiggsUK skype: > simonbiggsuk > > s.bi...@ed.ac.uk Edinburgh College of Art, University of Edinburgh > www.eca.ac.uk/circle www.elmcip.net www.movingtargets.co.uk > > > _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.orghttp://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk @SimonBiggsUK skype: simonbiggsuk s.bi...@ed.ac.uk Edinburgh College of Art, University of Edinburgh www.eca.ac.uk/circle www.elmcip.net www.movingtargets.co.uk
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