Hello Dave! Yes, this is a common predicament but it seems a perfect issue for creative solutions generated by artists of the net who live and breathe online.
I have changed the name of this thread to track responses to this issue: step one of being organized. From: dave miller <dave.miller...@gmail.com> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 8:53 AM To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Are you on Pinterest? Hi Randall I'm very interested in hearing how others archive/ organise their work/ ideas/ references as to be honest I have stuff all over the place and lose things all the time, which is frustrating confusing and inefficient. I have notes in text files on the computer, in traditional notebooks, online - on my blog and some on evernote. Too many places and not organised. I need a better system! dave On 24 June 2015 at 13:36, Randall Packer <rpac...@zakros.com> wrote: > This is a great opportunity for artists on NetBehaviour to share their own > personal archival systems or at the very least, systems of recording their > work and ideas. The artistic archive goes back to the beginning of time, as > artists have generally kept extensive journals of their work, which often > include sketches, scribbles, notes, and dreams. And often the journal makes > its way into an exhibition, providing source material and insight into the > artistic process. So now, in the age of social media, what are the current > extensions of the artist journal? How does online space serve the artist as a > repository for documenting thought and invention? > > Randall > > From: EduAustin Alliance <edu...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 3:41 AM > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Are you on Pinterest? > > > Alan + Maudlin + Turnt Up To 11 = >> > but it seems a useless and quixotic endeavor occupying almost 22 years of >> my life, > Which is a Troll because Alan is Never Maudlin. > > The first time I encountered Alan's website I thought of him as brave. I do > not buy many peoples' fantasy of living 'off the grid'. "Off the mac grid?", I > would ask them. > > The alpha betizing is ornament on your site.The beams are in place - your > archive is more stable than any I have seen. Natalie Jeremijenko, for > instance, does not have an archive which can be catalogued and indexed by Git. > > At some point there will be a zip of content - a dissemination to the finest > online monument builders. I doubt it would happen in second life, there would > be a celebration there of course, but the main bit, the part that matters, > would happen later. Your words, mixed with others, inseminate an important > conversation. Beyond that, your words, as an archive, sherpa generations > through trouble-wrought lives. > > time withstanding, > Bishop > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> wrote: >> >> >> i have similar feelings, but working starker at http://www.alansondheim.org - >> placing everything in text files with urls to audio/visual; at the moment i'm >> on "tg.txt" having gone through the alphabet several times over. it's an >> arcane system which unfortunately makes it difficult and probably useless for >> everyone except me; on the other hand, the 20,000 pages of text and >> references there are fairly complete. i started this in 1994 with what was >> called then net0.txt and it's continued daily ever since. at least grep and >> other commands allow me to search themes etc. fairly quickly. but it seems a >> useless and quixotic endeavor occupying almost 22 years of my life, as far as >> anyyone else is concerned. >> >> >> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Randall Packer wrote: >> >>> Interesting conversation about artistic output into the social media >>> sphere. >>> >>> I am obsessively committed to my blog: >>> http://www.randallpacker.com/ >>> >>> And have been for about 10 years. >>> >>> Why? Not so much because of the social nature of the medium, but because >>> it is a database. It is my journal, my personal record, my own repository >>> of ideas and media. My blog is a springboard for endless project ideas, >>> most of which will never be realized, but they are documented with a >>> system of taxonomies that allows this endless torrent of ideas to be >>> retrieved and reused. >>> >>> I have a great fear of forgetting: that ideas will simply disappear in the >>> ether. It is why Ted Nelson helped conceive the Web. This, in my opinion, >>> is the great crisis in an increasingly complex global information culture. >>> As an artist with a blog I have some control over memory and access, and I >>> use it incessantly to track and organize and filter my thinking. >>> >>> I would be lost without my blog, which is why I have become somewhat of a >>> disciple of Wordpress. With my blog, I am empowered to become the >>> archivist of my very own Library of Congress. >>> >>> Randall >>> >>> >>> On 6/21/15, 6:37 PM, "BishopZ" <xchic...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I am by no means a Pinterest advocate, but I do have a survey question. >>>> >>>> Many of us fancy ourselves as artists - we like to make decisions, >>>> even if it is only about our own work. >>>> >>>> Online digital properties, especially the top 50 trafficked on the >>>> internet, differentiate themselves, not by content, but by features. >>>> Pinterest's killer feature is delete. Compared to the competition, >>>> Pinterest is about curation, and thus they are the only mass online >>>> medium to, not just allow, but enable and promote deletion. >>>> >>>> The business model of nearly every large internet company is to juice >>>> every individual for-ever-y ounce of click-y-ness and like-y-ness they >>>> might have. Soak up every drop of interaction and use it to build a >>>> profile which can be sold. While Pinterest's business model is very >>>> similar, it is slightly different in a rather interesting way. >>>> >>>> Pinterest helps you boil things down, and as an artist that can be a >>>> very helpful service. Regardless of whether you use the service, you >>>> must register for an account to observe other people's curated sets. >>>> >>>> My question is this: >>>> >>>> Do you have a Pinterest account? >>>> >>>> How do you feel about the trade-off between blogs and wikis? >>>> >>>> How do you feel about the fact that your activity on social networks >>>> is monitored and sold to companies whose sole interest is to >>>> manipulate and corrupt you? >>>> >>>> Would you rather have no memory, or have to constantly prune? >>>> >>>> In appreciation, >>>> Bz >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ________________________________________________________________ >>>> ================================================================ >>>> =--------------------------------------------------------=-===-=-=-====-- >>>> +_+~_=_~--+__+=-^=-+_+_=^-+__+-=+_+~__=__~-_-____-=++=_--^-===-=-==-=-=-- >>>> =--------------------------------------------------------=-===-=-=-====-- >>>> >>>> http://bishopZ.com >>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>> "` `""- '`'`"` "`"'` `'``"" `'""`'' ''""`" `'''"` `"``'" `"""`" `'`' `' >>>> ..,` "".."' 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