Dear thanks for your answer. When I was much younger I believed in “just wars” 
and was jailed four years for belonging to the Tupamaros guerilla, you must 
know about it since Baader-Meinhof  had Tupamaros as inspiration 😊
It  was an armed gerilla and to my disclaim I can say today I was only 19 years 
old, new examinated from a very stern German nun’s school I had a highly 
romantized image of Che Guevara as icon and etc etc
Today I am a stern pacifist and the only resistance I understand its the 
Palestinian because they are occupied for a foreign power and they have right 
to fight for their land.


Cheers
Ana


De: AG Forever
Enviado: lunes, 14 de diciembre de 2015 5:42
Para: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Asunto: Re: [NetBehaviour] #rojava

Hi Ana, I always thought like that, I remember how my country / East Germany 
didn't last cause the reason to control people with violence in one place is 
not lasting....

This is an interesting article although half a year old, and the comments 
confuse me very much re FGM.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/arab-awakening/evangelos-aretaios/rojava-revolution

I would in any moment agree with you but if you can't even hold a territory and 
your choice is sex slave or combat fighter, I know what I would choose...  ? 

But then there is their revolution. There intentions, their goals..


"In the wider Middle East since the nineteenth century and before that, the 
female body is one of the most important symbolic battlegrounds between 
modernizers and reactionaries. Today, here in Syria, this fight is to death.
“The gangs of Daesh want the woman to be a slave. They don’t consider us as 
human beings but only as objects to serve men and to satisfy his specific 
needs. They ostentatiously sell women as slaves as if they were animals”. The 
girl I speak with is Nupelda, 20 years old and serves in a mobile company of 
the Women’s Protection Units (YPJ) on the front line. This is the army of women 
in the autonomous administration of Rojava, fighting side by side with men in 
the YPG. Both forces are under the control and command of PYD. Nupelda has been 
fighting for two years now."
I am thinking how to call for solidarity for Rojava revolution and eventually 
lift of PKK ban in EU...
just thoughts...

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On 9 Dec 2015, at 01:59, Ana Valdés <agora...@gmail.com> wrote:
I was as many of you know at the conference of Women in Black in India. Women 
from Afghanistan Congo Bosnia and Armenia shared with us dark stories of rape 
forced marriages and impunity we need to strengthen the civil societies the 
question is how to achieve it? If the changes are made with weapons and 
soldiers (female or male), we are always prisoners of the weapons and wars as 
metaphors...
Ana
Den 6 dec 2015 08:11 skrev "AGF poemproducer" <a...@poemproducer.com>:
hi,

I spent last days reading and studying the kurdish female fighters and their 
efforts to built an independent equal and just state in north east syria… i am 
a pacifist in my deepest structure but have been challanged and confused by 
what is happening there… if you need to read up look for hashtags #Rojava

any thoughts ?

(i find this article a good sum up)

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/11/25/rojava_is_a_radical_experiment_in_democracy_in_northern_syria_american_leftists.html

"I recently spoke to someone from the Kurdish women’s movement in Rojava and 
asked what they need most. She said they need a massive international 
solidarity campaign, beginning with political education about the evolution of 
the PKK and its politics, including its emphasis on democratic governance, 
anti-sectarianism, secularism, ecology, and women’s liberation. In practical 
terms, they need all possible international pressure to be put on Turkey and 
the KRG to end the embargo and let supplies through. They need the terrorist 
designation to be lifted so they can travel and raise money and do public 
speaking."

some more…

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/02/remembering-murray-bookchin/<http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/02/remembering-murray-bookchin/>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Protection_Units<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Protection_Units

maybe this is also a good thing/ althought americans all over this, but maybe 
for the right reasons for a change
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Presidents_Obama_and_Hollande_Prime_Ministers_Cameron_and_Turnbull_Help_the_Kurds_cut_off_ISILs_route_to_Europe/?wTXkYjb

http://thelionsofrojava.com/index.php/join/

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