On 6 Apr 2014 at 15:27, Eric Haszlakiewicz wrote: > On April 6, 2014 1:52:29 PM EDT, Aleksej Saushev <a...@inbox.ru> wrote: > >Eric Haszlakiewicz <e...@nimenees.com> writes: > > > >> On April 6, 2014 7:33:34 AM EDT, Aleksej Saushev <a...@inbox.ru> > >wrote: > >>>Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2...@yahoo.com> writes: > >>> > >>>> On 5 April 2014 16:56, Aleksej Saushev <a...@inbox.ru> wrote: > >>>>> LiveCD is of no use to people who have no functional CD drive > >>>>> or no CD drive at all. This is why it is the wrong approach. > >>>> > >>>> By livecd I meant any system which is not installed to local hard > >>>disk > >>>> and resets itself after reboot. It doesn't have to boot from a CD, > >it > >>>> can boot from any removable media, the principle is the same. > >>> > >>>Live CD is significantly different from live USB pen drive and SD > >card, > >>>it has to be in a separate category because building it is based on > >>>completely different principle. Same for live DVD. > >> > >> How is it any different? In both cases you create a boot image > >> that you don't change, and boot it on a machine whose existing
Hi I must be from a different world? My usb drives have been writeable, at least from a root login, and I accidentally destroyed my first one. That is a big disadvantage but not as important as being able to just change config or update as one does with NetBSD on hdd. David > >> installation you don't change. That seems pretty similar to me. > >> The fact that in one case the media physically prevents you from > >modifying it seems largely irrelevant. > > > >It is relevant and this is exactly what constitutes major difference > >when you work on such a project. You don't need to think how to handle > >various things that require data persistency even if temporal one. > >Your /tmp and /var are writable from the very beginning as if you are > >using HDD. This alone makes USB pen drive a lot different to place it > >into another category. > > Well, you clearly have a different idea of what a "live usb" system is than I > do. I expected it to be something that could be booted repeatedly and have > the exact same environment each time (i.e. no changes allowed to the usb > storage), while you seem to be talking about just a normal install on a usb > stick. > > >Even if you decide to install some additional software, you don't need > >to create the image from scratch, with USB pen drive you follow the > >usual > >routine. > > How the image is created seems to me like something that is not at all > relevant to how it is used, and I imagine that 99% of the time will be people > *using* a pre-made image, not creating their own. The times that I've used > livecd images the grab-it-and-go feature has been the biggest reason for > using it, so I don't care what steps might have been needed to create it. > > Eric >