On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 13:50 -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:43:57 +1000 > Russell Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 10:04 -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > > The memset fix is in current CVS. I just wasn't going to take the > > > patch that looked at utsname to decide what hash to use. > > > > Stephen, could you describe your objections to it please? > > > > Because it means that the API for netlink isn't being used properly.
Do you mean the binary API between the kernel and the applications has been broken; this is bad as it transgresses some unwritten law; and the patch is bad because it hides this problem rather than addressing it? Does the fact that the binary API changed during a major kernel release (between 2.4 and 2.6) give us some wriggle room here? Anyway, jokes aside, the situation we have now is the current "tc" doesn't work with the current kernel. This situation can't be allowed to continue, I presume. Ergo, here is a list of things we could do to fix this. All you (plural) have to do is choose one, or some combination: 1. Change the hashing algorithm back to the 2.4 way. (IMHO, the 2.4 algorithm was better.) Disadvantage: anybody who had a u32 filter that hashed on more than one non-zero byte will have their u32 filters suddenly break. However, since how the hashing algorithm was never documented beyond "HOWTO's" that showed how to hash on one byte, and every example of hashing I have seen has been a copy & paste of said HOWTO's, my guess is there are stuff all people who will be effected. Another disadvantage: people who are using older 2.6 kernels (eg me on my production machines) won't have the problem fixed. 2. Change the hashing algorithm in "tc" to match the current kernel. Disadvantage: "tc" will no longer work with 2.4 kernels. 3. Change the hashing algorithm in "tc" to match the current kernel, and change the 2.4 kernel's hashing algorithm to match the 2.6 kernel. This is Jamal's proposed solution. Disadvantage: 2.4 is a "stable" kernel, produced when we made a real effort to distinguish between between stable and development kernels. This change would break API compatibility in a stable series. Yuk! 4. Make "tc" look at the kernel version, and choose the appropriate hashing function. This was my solution, and everybody seems to hate it bar me :(. Disadvantages: None, other than it hides a violation of an "unwritten law". 5. A combination of 1 & 4. Change the hashing in 2.6 algorithm back to what it was in 2.4, and hide the change by making "tc" check the kernel version and choose the matching hash. Disadvantages: None, other than now we have wilfully broken the unwritten law twice. My personal preference is to have a "tc" in CVS that works with _all_ kernel versions. Yes - the netlink interface has been broken. But is was done, and now can't be undone. No matter why we do, there will forever more be kernel versions with incompatible netlink interfaces. We can't fix it. We just have to limit the damage. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html