On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 22:46 +0100, Andy Furniss wrote: 
> FWIW I think it may be possible to do it Patricks' way, as if I read it 
> properly he will end up with the ATM cell train length which gets 
> shifted by cell_log and looked up as before. The ATM length will be in 
> steps of 53 so with cell_log 3 or 4 I think there will be no collisions 
> - so special rate tables for ATM can still be made perfect.

Patrick is proposing that the packet lengths be sent to 
the kernel in a similar way to how transmission times (ie
RTAB) is sent now.  I agree that is how things should be 
done - but it doesn't have much to do with the ATM patch, 
other than he has allowed for ATM in the way he does the 
calculation in the kernel [1].

In particular:

- As it stands, it doesn't help the qdiscs that use 
  RTAB.  So unless he proposes to remove RTAB entirely 
  the ATM patch as it will still have to go in.

- A bit of effort was put into making this current
  ATM patch both backwards and forwards compatible.
  Patricks patch would work with newer kernels,
  obviously.  Older kernels, and in particular the
  kernel that Debian is Etch is likely to distribute
  would miss out.

If Patrick did intend remove RTAB entirely then he
needs to add a fair bit more into his patch.  Since 
RTAB is just STAB scaled, its certainly possible.
The kernel will have to do a shift and a division
for each packet, which I assume is permissible.

> As you say, I think mpu should be added aswell - so eth/other can benefit.

Not really.  The MPU is reflected in the STAB table,
just as it is for RTAB.

One other point - the optimisation Patrick proposes
for STAB (over RTAB) was to make the number of entries
variable.  This seems like a good idea.  However there 
is no such thing as a free lunch, and if you did 
indeed reduce the number of entries to 16 for Ethernet 
(as I think Patrick suggested), then each entry would
cover 1500/16 = 93 different packet lengths.  Ie,
entry 0 would cover packet lengths 0..93, entry 1
94..186, and so on.  A single entry can't be right
for all those packet lengths, so again we are back
to a average 30% error for typical VOIP length
packets.

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