On Thu, 18 May 2017 12:02:07 +0200 Daniel Borkmann <dan...@iogearbox.net> wrote:
> On 05/16/2017 06:36 PM, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > On Sat, 13 May 2017 19:29:57 -0600 > > David Ahern <dsah...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On 5/4/17 2:43 PM, Phil Sutter wrote: > >>> So in summary, given that very little change happens to iproute2's > >>> internal libnetlink, I don't see much urge to make it use libmnl as > >>> backend. In my opinion it just adds another potential source of errors. > >>> > >>> Eventually this should be a maintainer level decision, though. :) > >> > >> What is the decision on this? > > > > I am waiting for a longer before committing anything. This was to allow > > for a wider range of distribution maintainer feedback. > > > > The most likely outcome is that for 4.12 is to use libmnl for extended ack. > > And continue to support building without mnl with loss of functionality. > > > > As far as conversion of all of iproute2 to libmnl. I have better things > > to do... But for new functionality like extended ack, devlink, tipc, using > > libmnl is easy, safe and it works well. I will continue to not accept > > new code that depends on the other library (libnl). That has come up > > a couple of times. > > So effectively this means libmnl has to be used for new stuff, noone > has time to do the work to convert the existing tooling over (which > by itself might be a challenge in testing everything to make sure > there are no regressions) given there's not much activity around > lib/libnetlink.c anyway, and existing users not using libmnl today > won't see/notice new improvements on netlink side when they do an > upgrade. So we'll be stuck with that dual library mess pretty much > for a very long time. :( > > If there's such high desire to use libmnl (?), can't there be a > one time effort wrapping the core netlink code over, making a hard > cut for everyone where from one release to another the dependency > becomes really mandatory rather than optional? That's more work > initially, but still seems a lot better than growing a wild mix > of both over time where users see different behavior of the tools > depending on their setup. (This could perhaps also make actual > conversion much harder later on.) If nothing else it would be simple experiment to do libnetlink to libmnl wrappers in libnetlink.h > Can't you add that lib conversion as a Google summer of code project, > so that someone is actively taking care of that initial work? Agreed