On 04/03/2018 08:07 AM, David Ahern wrote:
> On 4/2/18 12:16 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 12:09:44PM -0600, David Ahern wrote:
>>> On 4/2/18 12:03 PM, John Fastabend wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can the above be a normal BPF helper that returns an
>>>> ifindex? Then something roughly like this patter would
>>>> work for all drivers with redirect support,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      route_ifindex = ip_route_lookup(__daddr, ....)
>>>>      if (!route_ifindex)
>>>>            return do_foo()
>>>>      return xdp_redirect(route_ifindex);
>>>>      
>>>> So my suggestion is,
>>>>
>>>>   1. enable veth xdp (including redirect support)
>>>>   2. add a helper to lookup route from routing table
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively you can skip step (2) and encode the routing
>>>> table in BPF directly. Maybe we need a more efficient data
>>>> structure but that should also work.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's what I have here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/dsahern/linux/commit/bab42f158c0925339f7519df7fb2cde8eac33aa8
>>
>> was wondering what's up with the delay and when are you going to
>> submit them officially...
>> The use case came up several times.
>>
> 
> I need to find time to come back to that set. As I recall there a number
> of outstanding issues:
> 
> 1. you and Daniel had comments about the bpf_func_proto declarations
> 
> 2. Jesper had concerns about xdp redirect to any netdev. e.g., How does
> the lookup know the egress netdev supports xdp? Right now you can try
> and the packet is dropped if it is not supported.
> 

There should probably be a tracepoint there if not already. Otherwise
I think the orchestration/loader layer should be ensuring that xdp
support is sufficient. I don't think we need anything specific in the
XDP/BPF code to handle unsupported devices.

> 3. VLAN devices. I suspect these will affect the final bpf function
> prototype. It would awkward to have 1 forwarding API for non-vlan
> devices and a second for vlan devices, hence the need to resolve this
> before it goes in.
> 

Interesting. Do we need stacked XDP, I could imagine having 802.1Q
simply call the lower dev XDP xmit routine. Possibly adding the 8021q
header first.

Or alternatively a new dev type could let users query things like
vlan-id from the dev rather than automatically doing the tagging. I
suspect though if you forward to a vlan device automatically adding
the tag is the correct behavior.


> 4. What about other stacked devices - bonds and bridges - will those
> just work with the bpf helper? VRF is already handled of course. ;-)
> 

So if we simply handle this like other stacked devices and call the
lower devs xdp_xmit routine we should get reasonable behavior. For
bonds and bridges I guess some generalization is needed though because
everything at the moment is skb centric. I don't think its necessary
in the first series though. It can be added later.

.John

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