i'll try to keep this (relatively) short as there may be a simple answer to this, or it could just be a stupid question -- sort of related to previous question (thank you, florian).
currently messing with networking device involving FPGA and some quad-port transceivers, and noticed that, when one unplugs or plugs a device into one of the ports, there is no change in the contents of the corresponding sysfs files /sys/class/net/<ifname>/carrier (or operstate, for that matter, which might be related to this as well). doing this with a "regular" port on my linux laptop certainly confirmed that the carrier file would switch between 0 and 1, and operstate would switch between up and down, so i know what behaviour i was *expecting* if things were ostensibly working properly. long story short, i pawed through the driver code only to stumble over this in the ethernet driver for the device: static const struct net_device_ops netdev_netdev_ops = { ... snip ... .ndo_change_carrier = netdev_change_carrier, ... snip ... }; and static int netdev_change_carrier(struct net_device *dev, bool new_carrier) { if (new_carrier) netif_carrier_on(dev); else netif_carrier_off(dev); return 0; } as i mentioned before, i am really new to kernel networking code, so i did a quick search and found this in netdevice.h: * int (*ndo_change_carrier)(struct net_device *dev, bool new_carrier); * Called to change device carrier. Soft-devices (like dummy, team, etc) * which do not represent real hardware may define this to allow their * userspace components to manage their virtual carrier state. Devices * that determine carrier state from physical hardware properties (eg * network cables) or protocol-dependent mechanisms (eg * USB_CDC_NOTIFY_NETWORK_CONNECTION) should NOT implement this function. * although i still don't fully understand the purpose of that field, it makes me *very* nervous to read that that routine is for "soft" devices, and ***not*** for devices that attempt to determine carrier state from physical hardware properties. i searched the kernel code base for other drivers that set that field, and found only what is mentioned in that comment -- dummy.c, of_dummy_mac.c and team.c. the testers for this unit are complaining that they are somehow not being notified when they plug and unplug devices from the ports -- is this why? what would be the purpose of assigning a routine to that field? as i read it (and i could be wrong), my impression is that you can have the driver *either* determine the carrier state from physical properties, *or* allow userspace control, but not both, is that correct? i'm about to ask the original authors why they did the above, but i'd like to feel that it's not a stupid question if there's something really clever going on here. is this just a development debugging feature that would normally be removed at production? or what? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca/dokuwiki Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================