I should elaborate - if 802.11 is made into a real protocol - then raw
packet capture works correctly on the master device. (raw sockets opened
on the device see all frames before they are passed to the protocol).
This is the right way to go.

Simon 

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To: Johannes Berg; Stephen Hemminger
Cc: Christoph Hellwig; James Ketrenos; John W. Linville; Jeff Garzik;
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Subject: RE: [patch] d80211: use pfifo_qdisc_ops rather
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I'm not sure why we don't use the master device for packet capture - I
can't think of any good reason for requiring a separate device. I would
think the master device is the perfect place to do packet capture, and
raw packet transmission.

Simon 

-----Original Message-----
From: Johannes Berg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:57 PM
To: Stephen Hemminger
Cc: Simon Barber; Christoph Hellwig; James Ketrenos; John W. Linville;
Jeff Garzik; Patrick McHardy; David Kimdon; netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] d80211: use pfifo_qdisc_ops rather
thand80211-specificqdisc

On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 14:34 -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote:

> It makes 802.11 packet capture easier as well.  Please don't invent 
> yet another network access object for the master device.

Oh, but the master device doesn't get any packets you could capture. For
that, you need to add a monitor interface.

johannes
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