On Friday 19 January 2007 10:27, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (at Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:51:14 > > +0300), Dmitry Mishin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says: > > > >> =================================== > >> L2 network namespaces > >> > >> The most straightforward concept of network virtualization is complete > >> separation of namespaces, covering device list, routing tables, netfilter > >> tables, socket hashes, and everything else. > >> > >> On input path, each packet is tagged with namespace right from the > >> place where it appears from a device, and is processed by each layer > >> in the context of this namespace. > >> Non-root namespaces communicate with the outside world in two ways: by > >> owning hardware devices, or receiving packets forwarded them by their > >> parent > >> namespace via pass-through device. > > > > Can you handle multicast / broadcast and IPv6, which are very important? > > The basic idea here is very simple. > > Each network namespace appears to user space as a separate network stack, > with it's own set of routing tables etc. > > All sockets and all network devices (the sources of packets) belong > to exactly one network namespace. > > >From the socket or the network device a packet enters the network stack > you can infer the network namespace that it will be processed in. > Each network namespace should get it own complement of the data structures > necessary to process packets, and everything should work. > > Talking between namespaces is accomplished either through an external network, > or through a special pseudo network device. The simplest to implement > is two network devices where all packets transmitted on one are received > on the other. Then by placing one network device in one namespace and > the other in another interface it looks like two machines connected by > a cross over cable. > > Once you have that in a one namespace you can connect other namespaces > with the existing ethernet bridging or by configuring one of the > namespaces as a router and routing traffic between them. > > > Supporting IPv6 is roughly as difficult as supporting IPv4. > > What needs to happen to convert code is all variables either need > a per network namespace instance or the data structures needs to be > modified to have a network namespace tag. For hash tables which > are hard to allocate dynamically tagging is the preferred conversion > method, for anything that is small enough duplication is preferred > as it allows the existing logic to be kept. > > In the fast path the impact of all of the conversions should be very light, > to non-existent. In network stack initialization and cleanup there > is work todo because you are initializing and cleanup variables more often > then at module insertion and removal. > > So my expectation is that once we get a framework established and merged > to allow network namespaces eventually the entire network stack will be > converted. Not just ipv4 and ipv6 but decnet, ipx, iptables, fair scheduling, > ethernet bridging and all of the other weird and twisty bits of the > linux network stack. Thanks Eric for such descriptive comment. I can only sign off on it :)
> > The primary practical hurdle is there is a lot of networking code in > the kernel. > > I think I know a path by which we can incrementally merge support for > network namespaces without breaking anything. More to come on this > when I finish up my demonstration patchset in a week or so that > is complete enough to show what I am talking about. > > I hope this helps but the concept into perspective. I'll be waiting it. > > As for Dmitry's patchset in particular it currently does not support > IPv6 and I don't know where it is with respect to the broadcast and > multicast but I don't see any immediate problems that would preclude > those from working. But any incompleteness is exactly that > incompleteness and an implementation problem not a fundamental design > issue. Broadcasts/multicasts are supported. -- Thanks, Dmitry. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html