On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:55:46 +0800, Jason Wang <jasow...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:20 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanz...@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 12:16:27 +0800, Jason Wang <jasow...@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:00 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanz...@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 11:14:30 +0800, Jason Wang <jasow...@redhat.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:12 AM Zhu Yanjun <yanjun....@linux.dev>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 在 2024/1/20 1:29, Andrew Lunn 写道:
> > > > > > >>>>> while (!virtqueue_get_buf(vi->cvq, &tmp) &&
> > > > > > >>>>> - !virtqueue_is_broken(vi->cvq))
> > > > > > >>>>> + !virtqueue_is_broken(vi->cvq)) {
> > > > > > >>>>> + if (timeout)
> > > > > > >>>>> + timeout--;
> > > > > > >>>> This is not really a timeout, just a loop counter. 200
> > > > > > >>>> iterations could
> > > > > > >>>> be a very short time on reasonable H/W. I guess this avoid the
> > > > > > >>>> soft
> > > > > > >>>> lockup, but possibly (likely?) breaks the functionality when
> > > > > > >>>> we need to
> > > > > > >>>> loop for some non negligible time.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> I fear we need a more complex solution, as mentioned by
> > > > > > >>>> Micheal in the
> > > > > > >>>> thread you quoted.
> > > > > > >>> Got it. I also look forward to the more complex solution to
> > > > > > >>> this problem.
> > > > > > >> Can we add a device capability (new feature bit) such as
> > > > > > >> ctrq_wait_timeout
> > > > > > >> to get a reasonable timeout？
> > > > > > > The usual solution to this is include/linux/iopoll.h. If you can
> > > > > > > sleep
> > > > > > > read_poll_timeout() otherwise read_poll_timeout_atomic().
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I read carefully the functions read_poll_timeout() and
> > > > > > read_poll_timeout_atomic(). The timeout is set by the caller of the
> > > > > > 2
> > > > > > functions.
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI, in order to avoid a swtich of atomic or not, we need convert rx
> > > > > mode setting to workqueue first:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.mail-archive.com/virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org/msg60298.html
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As such, can we add a module parameter to customize this timeout
> > > > > > value
> > > > > > by the user?
> > > > >
> > > > > Who is the "user" here, or how can the "user" know the value?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or this timeout value is stored in device register, virtio_net
> > > > > > driver
> > > > > > will read this timeout value at initialization?
> > > > >
> > > > > See another thread. The design needs to be general, or you can post a
> > > > > RFC.
> > > > >
> > > > > In another thought, we've already had a tx watchdog, maybe we can have
> > > > > something similar to cvq and use timeout + reset in that case.
> > > >
> > > > But we may block by the reset ^_^ if the device is broken?
> > >
> > > I mean vq reset here.
> >
> > I see.
> >
> > I mean when the deivce is broken, the vq reset also many be blocked.
> >
> > void vp_modern_set_queue_reset(struct virtio_pci_modern_device
> > *mdev, u16 index)
> > {
> > struct virtio_pci_modern_common_cfg __iomem *cfg;
> >
> > cfg = (struct virtio_pci_modern_common_cfg __iomem
> > *)mdev->common;
> >
> > vp_iowrite16(index, &cfg->cfg.queue_select);
> > vp_iowrite16(1, &cfg->queue_reset);
> >
> > while (vp_ioread16(&cfg->queue_reset))
> > msleep(1);
> >
> > while (vp_ioread16(&cfg->cfg.queue_enable))
> > msleep(1);
> > }
> > EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(vp_modern_set_queue_reset);
> >
> > In this function, for the broken device, we can not expect something.
>
> Yes, it's best effort, there's no guarantee then. But it doesn't harm to try.
>
YES. I agree.
Thanks.
> Thanks
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It looks like we have multiple goals here
> > >
> > > 1) avoid lockups, using workqueue + cond_resched() seems to be
> > > sufficient, it has issue but nothing new
> > > 2) recover from the unresponsive device, the issue for timeout is that
> > > it needs to deal with false positives
> >
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > But I want to add a new goal, cvq async. In the netdim, we will
> > send many requests via the cvq, so the cvq async will be nice.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thans
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Zhu Yanjun
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andrew
> > > > > >
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