What about Silver Stream Where does it stand?
ganesh
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> From: Joel Parker Henderson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ND] Demise of Netdynamics
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>
> > Why would I want to continue another minute developing web products
> using
> > Netdynamics?
>
> Several reasons.
>
> NetDynamics is the fastest, most robust Java application server ever
> built. Frankly, if you can find anything out there as good as
> NetDynamics right now, switch to it and let me know what it is.
>
> > I have just recommended termination of further development on our
> project
> > using Netdynamics because the risks are too great that we would have to
> > rewrite the entire project with some future, unproven iPlanet tool. Our
>
> For the future, NetDynamics and Kiva will be merged and named the
> Sun/Netscape iPlanet Application Server. This is all very well proven
> technology-- Kiva is blazingly fast and scalable at non-Java code, and
> NetDynamics is blazingly fast and scalabe at pure Java code, so you will
> get the best of both worlds. I want to be very clear that there is no
> "miracle code" coming out of nowhere-- both servers have been used
> thoroughly by the largest customers in the world, in mission-critical
> environments, for years.
>
> Yes, there will be issues of combining code, various event models, J2EE
> support, and so on. These are challenges for us at Sun, and may take
> us some time to iron out, but we absolutely will not put out a bad or
> defective product. Try putting yourself in our shoes: we are combining our
> two largest most important groups of customers, so we are going to be
> very, very careful about delivering a top-notch new server.
>
> We have two solid engineering teams that have worked together for years,
> and everyone is staying on board. Sun is absolutely committed to building
> the new Application Server, and Sun has the strength to make it the de
> facto industry standard.
>
> For comparison, companies like WebLogic have very good app servers,
> and may be a bit ahead of us on future technologies like J2EE.
> If J2EE is crucially important to you right now, you may want to
> look at WebLogic. However, I would never bet my business on BEA
> the WebLogic parent company, and I would question BEA salespeople
> very carefully on why all BEA/WebLogic employees are quitting.
>
> > our business plan can not afford this expense and uncertainty.
> > Are we making the wrong business and technical decision?
>
> I think it would be wise to asses the real risks. First, ND5 will continue
> to be supported for years, so your existing code will continue to work.
>
> Next, Sun will combine ND and Kiva, both of which are proven app servers,
> built by proven engineering teams. There is some risk that it will take us
> a little longer to do it carefully and prudently, so if you need to be on
> the absolute bleeding edge, you may want to look at other products.
>
> Finally, the worst-case risk for you is that Sun will totally screw things
> up, and the iPlanet appserver will be a disaster. Even if this happens,
> you will still be using Java, still be building portable business logic
> objects, still be migrating toward JavaBeans, EJB, Servlets, JSP, and the
> rest of J2EE.
>
> In case it's relevant, I have evaluated the iPlanet source code and the
> engineers, and I am extremely impressed with iPlanet-- and I don't say
> that lightly. I'm a tech guy, not a marketing guy, so I can say with
> confidence that the iPlanet team is very skilled and has solid software.
>
> Do keep emailing me with questions, comments, etc.
> and I'll be sure that people at the Alliance see them.
> Also, talk to your sales reps and let them know how you feel,
> and that you need more information about the future of ND.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joel Henderson
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>
>
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