Thanks Patrick, a very satisfying answer !

Alex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Schaaf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: conntrack table not cleared..


> > been to. What seems to make no sense is that I see this
> >
> > 192.168.0.2,1134      207.46.226.25,80      tcp     ESTABLISHED  59:1:51
> >
> > when the box 192.168.0.2 is down and has been down for hours. Why would
> > netfilter still see this connection
> > as ESTABLISHED ?
>
> In this situation, the client box never sends a packet again. And, if the
> server has no data to send, it also does not need to send any packet.
> Alternatively, that server have gone down, too, and forgot about your
> client connection. Then, it also won't send any packet.
>
> So, in total, conntracking sees no packet. There is no way to guess
> that one or both sides died. Thus, the normal expire timeouts for
> ESTABLISHED connections, which is some days, applies.
>
> It has been discussed numerous times here, that this behaviour is
> unwanted for some situations, and critical for others (where long-running
> TCP connections without traffic is the norm). To meet both situations
> somewhere in the middle, the iptables timeouts where chosen the way
> they are now. As this is a compromise, it cannot be the "right thing"
> for most situations. But there is no way it can be improved in a
> generic manner without pissing off part of the "population".
>
> Hope this explains things to you sufficiently.
>
> best regards
>   Patrick
>


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