Do you only get FIN packets? What about DPT (33151), is it the
port you send your original email to hotmail?

Ramin

On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 05:44:53PM -0700, Travis Ogdon wrote:

> 
> Whenever sending to a Hotmail account from my server I end up with roughly
> 10 dropped packets from random IP addresses within hotmail's IP space. My
> firewall rules are pretty tight (I think), but no other server has
> demonstrated this problem (and I send to a lot of people on a wide variety
> of other servers).
> 
> The weird part is that the message goes through to hotmail just fine right
> away, but then the packets are logged about once a minute for the 10 minutes
> after sending a message. Checking my mail logs shows no connections to the
> IP addresses in question, however the ACK bit is set on all of the packets
> that I block.
> 
> Here's the most recent example:
> 
> 
> May 15 17:21:13 nigel kernel: IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:50:ba:c1:e1:c0:00:10:67:00:2b:06:08:00 SRC=64.4.49.145
> DST=xxx.xxx.xxx.xx LEN=82 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=243 ID=11945 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=25 DPT=33151 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 
> May 15 17:21:21 nigel kernel: IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:50:ba:c1:e1:c0:00:10:67:00:2b:06:08:00 SRC=64.4.49.145
> DST=xxx.xxx.xxx.xx LEN=82 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=243 ID=11946 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=25 DPT=33151 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 
> May 15 17:21:38 nigel kernel: IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:50:ba:c1:e1:c0:00:10:67:00:2b:06:08:00 SRC=64.4.49.145
> DST=xxx.xxx.xxx.xx LEN=82 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=243 ID=42543 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=25 DPT=33151 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 
> May 15 17:22:12 nigel kernel: IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:50:ba:c1:e1:c0:00:10:67:00:2b:06:08:00 SRC=64.4.49.145
> DST=xxx.xxx.xxx.xx LEN=82 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=243 ID=42544 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=25 DPT=33151 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 
> May 15 17:23:12 nigel kernel: IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:50:ba:c1:e1:c0:00:10:67:00:2b:06:08:00 SRC=64.4.49.145
> DST=xxx.xxx.xxx.xx LEN=82 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=243 ID=5521 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=25 DPT=33151 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 
> May 15 17:24:12 nigel kernel: IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:50:ba:c1:e1:c0:00:10:67:00:2b:06:08:00 SRC=64.4.49.145
> DST=xxx.xxx.xxx.xx LEN=82 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=243 ID=65521 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=25 DPT=33151 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 
> May 15 17:25:12 nigel kernel: IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:50:ba:c1:e1:c0:00:10:67:00:2b:06:08:00 SRC=64.4.49.145
> DST=xxx.xxx.xxx.xx LEN=82 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=243 ID=59985 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=25 DPT=33151 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 
> May 15 17:26:12 nigel kernel: IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:50:ba:c1:e1:c0:00:10:67:00:2b:06:08:00 SRC=64.4.49.145
> DST=xxx.xxx.xxx.xx LEN=82 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=243 ID=54449 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=25 DPT=33151 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 
> May 15 17:27:12 nigel kernel: IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:50:ba:c1:e1:c0:00:10:67:00:2b:06:08:00 SRC=64.4.49.145
> DST=xxx.xxx.xxx.xx LEN=82 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=243 ID=48913 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=25 DPT=33151 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 ACK PSH FIN URGP=0 
> 
> Note that I've sanitized the IP that these are coming into. Again,
> 64.4.49.145 shows up nowhere in my smtp logs. There aren't any 
> return receipts or other weirdnesses to the messages, just plain text.
> 
> 
> Is Hotmail screwing something up? Am I?
> 
> A quick search through the archives of this list and the postfix list
> doesn't seem to bring anything up, and since the problem seems to be with
> iptables at this point I thought I'd start here...
> 
> Let me know if posting my iptables config would help. I'm hoping that I'm
> especially dense at searching through the archives and that this is some
> sort of well known issue.
> 
> TIA
> 
> -- Travis

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