> On 18 Dec 2015, at 19:42, Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wrote:
> 
> Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 18 Dec 2015, at 17:06, Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> if we want people to take YANG modules appearing in I-Ds seriously and 
>>> implement them, then we should apply the revisioning rules to them. That 
>>> is, if a module changes between two I-D revisions, then its revision-date 
>>> has to be bumped and a new entry added to the revision history. As it is 
>>> now, the I-D-based modules are esentially revisionless.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The revision rules only apply to published modules.
>> 
>> Update rules of sec. 10 offer no such excuse.
> 
> It says:
> 
>  For any published change, ...

Well, sec. 10 (and 11 in 6020bis) only says: "For any published change, a new 
"revision" statement (Section 7.1.9) MUST be included in front of the existing 
"revision" statements." The update rules aren't conditional in any way.

Lada

> 
> 
> I agree w/ Andy that 6087bis could clarify what this means in terms of
> IETF.
> 
> 
> /martin
> 
> 
>>> In IETF-speak, that means an RFC.  An Internet Draft
>>> is a work-in-progress.  We update the revision date every time
>>> the module changes, but the numerous incremental changes
>>> for a work-in-progress should not be recorded in the module
>>> revision history.  They should be recorded in the Change Log appendix.
>> 
>> Revision numbers are critical for interoperability. If we want
>> vendors to implement modules such as ietf-routing now, the
>> revisions must be solid and reliable.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I will try to make this procedure more clear in the YANG guidelines draft.
>> 
>> I think it should be the other way around: YANG spec should not
>> contain the update rules (because we all ignore them for I-D-based
>> modules, right?), but the IETF guidelines should specify the
>> policy you describe. 
>> 
>> Lada
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lada
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> 
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