On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 07:36 +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> I agree that
> 
>         leaf datastore {
>           type ds:datastore-ref;
>           description  "The identity of the datastore for which
>             the instance data is documented for config=true data nodes.
>             The leaf MAY be absent in which case the running dtastore or
>             if thats not writable, the candidate datastore is implied.
> 
>             For config=false data nodes always the operational
>             data store is implied.";
>       }
> 
> is pretty confusing. It should be something like this:
> 
>         leaf datastore {
>           type ds:datastore-ref;
>           description  "The identity of the datastore holding
>             the instance data. If the instance data is not associated

Or rather the datastore that the instance data was extracted from. After that,
the data exists on its own and the originating datastore may later be holding
something else.

>           with a datastore, then this leaf MUST be absent.";

RFC 2119 language would make sense if there is anything that could break if that
MUST isn't observed. But we even didn't know what the data is going to be used
for.

I would treat the "datastore" item as a purely optional information that, if
present, was provided for some reason. If it is false, what can we do?

>       }
> 
> I am against merging data from different datastores together, which
> the last sentence of the original text seems to imply.

Both config true and config false data may come from <operational>, so it
doesn't necessarily mean any mixing of datastores. But then again, I think that
the datastore information isn't in most cases that interesting.

Lada

> 
> /js
> 
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 11:51:26AM +0700, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> > Joe Clarke <jcla...@cisco.com> writes:
> > > ===
> > > 
> > > Section 6
> > > 
> > > With your datastore leaf, if I pull this off of a running YANG server,
> > > serialize it and share it with my customer, why wouldn't I have the
> > > actual datastore from which I retrieved it?  What I'm saying is that
> > > this element may be missing, but if it is, I don't think you can assume
> > > the source datastore for config=true nodes.
> > > 
> > 
> > The description of the "datastore" leaf doesn't make much sense to
> > me. It says that for configuration data the default is "running" or
> > "candidate" if "running" isn't writable. Why should it matter whether
> > "running" is writable? It looks like it is assumed that the config data will
> > eventually be fed into the indicated datastore, but I don't see any
> > reason for such an assumption.
> > 
> > I can see that "datastore" can be occasionally useful as auxiliary
> > metadata but, in my view, this document addresses also instance data
> > that is not necessarily bound to any datastore.
> > 
> > Lada
> > 
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