On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:37 AM William Lupton <wlup...@broadband-forum.org>
wrote:

> This remark might be out of context (I haven't been following the details)
> but this reference to prefixes makes me wonder whether there's any way that
> registered URN namespaces could be regarded as valid prefixes.
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml
>


looks like a great solution and would be less duplication of registries

Andy




>
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 18:28, Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:51 PM Christian Hopps <cho...@chopps.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the review! Comments inline.
>>>
>>> > On Mar 5, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Datatracker on behalf of Elwyn Davies <
>>> ietf-secretariat-re...@ietf.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Reviewer: Elwyn Davies
>>> > Review result: Almost Ready
>>> >
>>> ....
>>> > If I read correctly, the YANG definition in s4.2 REQUIRES that all
>>> tags have a
>>> > prefix.  For clarity, it would better if this read:
>>> >    All tags MUST begin with a prefix; it is intended that this prefix
>>> SHOULD
>>> >   [or maybe 'should'] indicate
>>> >  the ownership or origination of the definition.
>>>
>>> The intent was to not put the MUST on users. As the final arbiters of
>>> tags, users should be free to do whatever they want and not have
>>> implementations or standards superfluously block them from doing so. How
>>> about we carry the SHOULD into the typedef in the YANG model as well? That
>>> seems reasonable to me, i.e.,
>>>
>>>   typedef tag {
>>>     type string {
>>>       length "1..max";
>>>       pattern '[a-zA-Z_][a-zA-Z0-9\-_]*:[\S ]+';
>>>     }
>>>     description
>>>       "A tag is a type 'string' value that does not include carriage
>>>        return, newline or tab characters. It SHOULD begin with a
>>>        standard prefix.";
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I strongly agree that a prefix SHOULD be present, not MUST be present.
>> I also think the 3 standard prefixes will be insufficient over time.
>> (Having every organization on the planet except IETF share the prefix
>> "vendor:"
>> seems a bit short-sighted)
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> > S2, para 1: s/yang type/YANG type/ (I think)
>>> >
>>> > S2.2: s/follwing/following/
>>> >
>>> > S3.1, para 2:
>>> > OLD:
>>> > If the module definition is IETF standards track, the tags MUST also
>>> be Section
>>> > 2.1. Thus, new modules can drive the addition of new standard tags to
>>> the IANA
>>> > registry, and the IANA registry can serve as a check against
>>> duplication.
>>> >
>>> > NEW:
>>> > If the module is defined in an IETF standards track document, the tags
>>> MUST use
>>> > the prefix defined in Section 2.1. Thus, definitions of new modules
>>> can drive
>>> > the addition of new standard tags to the IANA registry defined in
>>> Section 7.2,
>>> > and the IANA registry can serve as a check against duplication.
>>> >
>>> > ENDS
>>> >
>>> > S3.2: s/standard/IETF Standard/
>>> >
>>> > S3.3: It would be useful to introduce the term 'masking' used later in
>>> the YANG
>>> > module definition.
>>>
>>> How about:
>>>
>>> "Tags of any kind can be assigned and removed by the user using normal
>>> configuration mechanisms. In order to remove a tag from the
>>> operational datastore the user adds a matching =masked-tag= entry for
>>> a given module."
>>>
>>> > S4.1: I think this usage of RFC 8340 makes it normative.
>>>
>>> Covered earlier (BCP).
>>>
>>> > S4.2, extension module-tag definition: This should contain a pointer
>>> to RFC
>>> > 8342 which discusses the system origin concept.
>>>
>>> Added.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Major issues:
>>> >
>>> > Minor issues:
>>> >
>>> > Nits/editorial comments:
>>> >
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