> On Jan 3, 2024, at 4:58 AM, Ladislav Lhotka <ladis...@lhotka.name> wrote:
> 
> Kent Watsen <kent+i...@watsen.net <mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net>> writes:
> 
>> Thanks Lada!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:50 AM, Ladislav Lhotka <ladis...@lhotka.name> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kent,
>>> 
>>> it's not exactly what you are asking for but FWIW Yangson has a method 
>>> DataModel.schema_digest [1]
>>> that returns a “schema digest” - a JS object that contains all information 
>>> that is necessary for such a client-side web app - data tree structure, 
>>> types, restrictions and more. I used it successfully for writing a RESTCONF 
>>> client app in AngularJS.
>>> 
>> 
>>> [1] 
>>> https://yangson.labs.nic.cz/datamodel.html#yangson.datamodel.DataModel.schema_digest
>> 
>> I can’t believe I didn’t know the importance of this method before.
>>  - an opportunity to improve the docs?
> 
> Do you have any suggestions?

Sure.  Something along these lines?

OLD: Generate digest of the data model schema. This information is primarily 
intended to aid client applications.

NEW: Generate a digest of the data model schema.  The digest is a flattened and 
compressed view intended to enable processing the data model without a full 
YANG processing stack, e.g., a single-page application written in Javascript 
running in a web browser.



>> You’re right that it isn’t what was asked for, but it may very well be 
>> sufficient…
>>  - especially given that you said your AngularJS project was successful.
> 
> YANG schema info is also needed in other parts of such an app, e.g. in HTML 
> templates.

Can you say a bit more here?  By “YANG schema”, do you mean the schema digest 
in particular?  Why would there be HTML templates if dynamically-generating the 
layout?



>>> I discussed this once with Martin Björklund and I think he mentioned that 
>>> tail-f used something similar. Perhaps this could be an idea for 
>>> standardizing - apart from web apps there are other restricted environments 
>>> not well suited for dealing with all the complexity and modularity of YANG 
>>> data models. 
>> 
>> I welcome opening a discussion into supporting SPAs on top of RESTCONF.
>> 
>> One issue I foresee is folks thinking server-rendered UI is good enough.
>> I’d like to counter with three comments:
>>  1. Server-rendered takes more server-processing
>>        - it is better to offload to client, right?
>>  2. RESTCONF is moving into the realm of applications (not network devices)
>>        - several NMS/Controller systems have RESTCONF-based NBIs
>>        - such apps want/need SPA UI to meet market-demand
>>  3. JS tooling to process YANG is nearly non-existent (but see [A] and [B]
>>        - this sets a high-bar for every application
>>        - also suggests a market-opportunity...
> 
> 4. A server-side app is kinda "man in the middle", so you typically have to 
> store credentials for accessing the devices on that web server. In contrast, 
> a client-side app authenticates directly with the RESTCONF server.

Indeed, that too.


> Lada

K.


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