One note: we do need to be careful to distinguish system config (in the system 
DS) from factory defaults RFC8088. If that administrator account is deletable 
(and probably is or should be for security reasons) I'd call that factory 
default (not system DS) and it would be visible in <running>.

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> Subject: Re: [netmod] origin "system" in system-config-09
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> On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 02:33:09PM +0000, Kent Watsen wrote:
> >
> > Indeed.  It might help to think about the use-case that <system> intends to
> support.  My understanding is that it’s trying to reveal more about what the
> buried program logic does, so that the network’s functioning can be better
> understood, e.g., to implement a digital twin.
> >
> 
> I guess I understand the system datastore differently. Perhaps some
> examples help:
> 
> 1) Consider an interface generating link-local IPv6 addresses. I
>    expect that these address has or:system, I do not expect to find
>    them in the system datastore.
> 
> 2) Consider a system that has a default administrative user account.
>    I expect that this account has sysds:system, I consider this hard
>    wired configuration.
> 
> 3) I consider a list of applications or preconfigured ACL rules as
>    sysds:system content. This is also the example given in the I-D.
> 
> I do not find where the document says that all system generated
> applied config should be reflected in sysds:system. This would turn
> sysds:system into a constantly changing dynamic configuration
> datastore. And if system is merged into intended, I start wondering
> whether values would not have or:intended. Or if your model applies,
> then why would we even need a new identity since we have already
> or:system?
> 
> /js
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