No, I think the canonical format needs to stay wire compatible, but the 
document could at least say "there's a messy thing here".  I think we're stuck 
with -00:00 and +00:00 being out there; and their meanings not changing.  It's 
more the meaning of 'Z' which seems to more often be aligned with '-00:00' in 
practice; rather than '+00:00'.

Bron.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2024, at 23:28, Jürgen Schönwälder wrote:
> Dear Bron,
> 
> the problem is that the canonical format uses -00:00 and this is what
> compliant deployed systems are expected to generate. Changing the
> canonical format to something different renders deployed systems
> non-compliant. Perhaps this is a reasonable trade-off to make, perhaps
> it is not. I am not making this call, I believe the WG felt like not
> touching this with this update.
> 
> /js
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 04:09:15AM -0800, Bron Gondwana via Datatracker wrote:
> > Reviewer: Bron Gondwana
> > Review result: Ready with Nits
> > 
> > I am the ARTART reviewer.
> > 
> > I previously reviewed -16 and had feedback about the datetime formats.  
> > Thank
> > you for taking that feedback on board.  I like the text you have for the new
> > "date" type.  I do still think that it would be valuable to include a note
> > regarding the inadvisability of relying on 'Z' to mean "it definitely 
> > happened
> > in GMT" and recommending always using "+00:00" for that purpose, as well as
> > advising against producing new data with "-00:00" since it's not defined by 
> > the
> > more recent versions of ISO8601 and this is supposed to be a profile of 
> > 8601.
> > 
> > But I don't think it's worth blocking the document for, hence "Ready with 
> > Nits".
> > 
> > Again, thanks for your great response to my earlier feedback.  Otherwise the
> > document looks great.
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Jürgen Schönwälder              Constructor University Bremen gGmbH
> Phone: +49 421 200 3587         Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany
> 

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