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re all, On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 05:24:06PM -0700, Morlock Elloi wrote: > Comparing this with early Internet is pointless - those were highly > educated, creative and intelligent early adopters, and today those > same people have all the privacy and freedom they want. The problem > is that the unwashed came and populated the space. No amount of > activism will help them, because they cannot (afford to) understand > the technology, and you cannot help the illiterates. what about another scenario? consider a "generational war-zone" like Italy, where the illiterates are those in power and the "intelligent early adopters" are fed up with their non-sense, most of them emigrating, but still ubiquitous. consider the strategic advantages that even 2nd hand consumer technology can provide nowadays if "well used", consider a case in which the engineering power of modern elites is shrinking and the "neo-illiterates" among them are loosing a certain media hegemony to new protocols. consider that there are deep conflicts unfolding - what's most urgent, at least in Eu-rope, is to supersede a neo-fascist KKN elite encrusted around sceptres of idiocracy; to not even mention the bail-out... do we really care about helping the "powerless tards rubbing iphones" you talk about? they are happy, "they have nothing to hide" and can even be nice to socialize with them sometimes. they can even be experts in different fields, they might even stop circulating spam one day - or we might even reach to spam them with better things... :^) fact is that digital alphabetization processes follow a "natural" pace, the "solid knowledge" corpus of GNU/Linux/BSD will prevail as is already doing; the situation Florian describes "Internet industry has efficaciously circumvented copyleft by using Free Software as a productivity stack underneath proprietary cloud/web applications and operating systems" doesn't exactly consists in a "circumvention": every time we look into an Abyss, the Abyss looks into us - and while this maneuver provided expert labour force to the industry, it also provides better positions for a GNU generation of developers, while their agency increases. the game is still open, the war is raging for those who can see it and it's not about establishing a new standard or writing a killer app, but using the strategic positioning we've finally acquired. ciao - -- jaromil, dyne.org developer, http://jaromil.dyne.org GPG: B2D9 9376 BFB2 60B7 601F 5B62 F6D3 FBD9 C2B6 8E39 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQQcBAEBCAAGBQJL4U0eAAoJEAslGzkIl3JRSa8f/R6vAGxB08iu+X6df4olJu0S bE7BRrKuKE3/FPOvNh7kXqJhQwAek9/oBIvDyVxXjzQdJKGlRI86mmMUViEV3Zpu 24jlkH3mppeAjtLAoC2KvPzbRdZKdULMD7TLOWECQXwRixSOc7v/yn3Bz72qf8hl glQACqlPMN8zlVylAtOruz+FIqRqDSz0DmvfFRFZXGWs2cyrHo1cdlqNGN9ypEWV D0jaAOkrCI3guIvpJDz9o1qY9Bn5Q9KVWH8JHt6xqXDGADke8mht4CNJdg6IJ9Mv odYbgFmjl3+Dx0Rw0QLz/ALbbhRpZeZa06WwHwPS7z3f0yzrRgIh2Gze+OLoRHNR a1P9RQu8nAcbZ2ufGWTMF9VWDife8r8S/LKpR0xfIkkqBvSRAKP2Jszlwwc+sSq8 /W0iVNM5nBRvfvCfK0Tkk5wp2WAV24ME/typ71LsCAmjco6yIQlRnKYoiceEE/uk hJ8H+NXDtKvl7sD/KNqx5rGvxJLo1RNTnaPeSd2FPx7n09yH+nb5kTLkPmdp21TO leX/rn8ZXIIsU9rqqlvXyO8a3aozDA5LkWntQIFnXc1kN5asTmAdaewDz9ToVg4Q iCI4yjdtN0zAYUqYstCgLulIwROiXkhsh/SyAzPTCGrqJQn8hMb4zHg70SvOcWf7 MAX80x6j6kBKrse9mOH98D6GqvgS34XOQ81w7Amoxgggf4huzka9bOovTSmZbghK VcxYjaMIVGm3blHqo7PXErYDEgXCUtv0feefCDesSP+T4xRkuDtiQHNrqExaT8WW RsWqQP+VHXwScQpBLTDFueNMyDx5SARc1ig9JnSohMuTZhLDhaWBSDtx79j58SYS RHvFtBic34WzdBiY6OybYe+9Dk4WaIul8cxX9NomTsM4XTcsdJ4ZaNEPgBlH0RA9 73hDt8fjuPxBG+WyMOfKHTqmwOP1KFWTVJhvBmNHewj82eAh1LMH9/vyLhyCxVnh mO+oV1GbYJFVSowR95tR8RRJHTayPk91slFzsHMw9N9FhrP5UTN9oRmTOLSIh5wL evI0ADgUGO9xFoX62Saf7mJMrfAlLjt+XDBF+sMs1GqCigpxlfB9foyW0b4Wnov4 QjcLtEq2zOBJ1ooQ9KXoyur5SC0b/diXm8iYPcLUjmQsKsA/uoSgS1vjlqA+w+em qFZiWCokcDItlBd5BpxJqZhzPR8jZWY257VgSqI11tBS2NMQs2UaVG1b2U94mTiM j1QMGcLEIX5EExUlIE0hHAmjZN+iDKTO7H56nF9of4XvumNu/SSWdQoAEC70+w4X X3UrRDwTrHKht4B5O7Even/zKkk7Ism4IrQ4vtSPUg5ZClDeXTI592BuMreK3wI= =6A/O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
