dear Dmytri, On Tue, 08 May 2012, Dmytri Kleiner wrote: > > In the meantime, we have many clever and dedicated people > contributing to inventing alternative platforms, and these platforms > can be very important and worthwhile for the minority that will ever > use them, but we do not have the social will nor capacity to bring > these platforms to the masses, and given the dominance of capital in > our society, it's not clear where such capacity will come from.
Thanks for the roundup. It doesn't progress much from a story on mass-media that we have told ourselves already 20 or more years ago in Italy, if not before. Anyway. Apologies for my rather personal attack in my other mail, I see you have at least refrained from attacking the attempts of others to individuate the very "capacity" (shouldn't it be called constituency?) you talk about here. I do not believe a macroeconomical analysis is at all bad, you can go on with it if you really like to continue that narrative, I see there is plenty of people that feel comfortable in the reiterate tracing of such graphs, but please do not exclude other narratives, as you was doing, what made me furious. And especially, do not build your interpretation of reality solely on your own visions, which seems to be very abstract to me, quite not in touch with the working class you are aiming at. So, I know is very hard for you, but please, don't be arrogant. Probably the very political concept we have in common is that of class consciousness (or maybe call it just consciousness?), but with a certain burlesque narrative you are just contributing to destroy it. Well, now I see you are back to a decade ago, allright. I guess the public liked that. You are in Europe, right? Careful with that axe, Eugene. ciao -- jaromil, dyne.org developer, http://jaromil.dyne.org GPG: B2D9 9376 BFB2 60B7 601F 5B62 F6D3 FBD9 C2B6 8E39 # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
