On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 12:22 -0400, Andrew wrote: > >On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 06:30 -0400, Andrew wrote: > >> >On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 18:44 -0400, Andrew wrote: > >> >> >>On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 19:21 -0400, Andrew wrote: > >> >> >>> Hello, > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> I have appealed to the Fedora Forum, but no one seems to have a > >> >> >>> clue > > > >> >> >there. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Here is the thread: > >> >> >>> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=199562 > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> (A quick synopsis of the thread: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> I've activated/deactivated everything i could think of, related to > >> >> >>NetworkManager; yet, everything wireless is grayed out in the applet. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> But wpa_supplicant (cli) works! > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Additional info (beyond above thread): > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> I compiled the latest NetworkManager svn; still same grayed out > >> >behavior. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> ) > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> I tried looking in the source and tracing the calls to and from > >> >> >>nm_client_wireless_get_enabled (if that's even a function) but, > >ignorant > >> >of > >> >> >C, > >> >> >>didn't get far. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Please help! > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Does NM think wireless is disabled because a HAL killswitch is > >reporting > >> >> > > >> >> >Don't know enough about HAL to answer the above. (Where would i look?) > >> >> > > >> >> >>that it's off? Could you post some logs from /var/log/messages from > >> >> >>when NM starts up? > >> >> > > >> >> >please see attachment. (i've X'ed out some addresses (xxxx:xxxx:....) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ooops. The list strips attachment. Here is a web link to the same > >> >/var/log/messages chunk: > >> >> > >> >> http://www.flight.us/bugs/var_messages_nm_chunk.txt > >> > > >> >What's the output of: > >> > > >> >dellWirelessCtl > >> > >> Here it is: http://www.flight.us/bugs/dellWirelessCtl.txt > >> > >> OK, it appears that the "problem"(?) /does/ originate in the BIOS (I did > >present this hypothesis at the Fedora forum, but no one took that path, > >which > >now seems correct) > > > >Yeah, if dellWirelessCtl says the WLAN is disabled, then that's what the > >BIOS thinks. The best thing I think you could do is file a bug against > >'libsmbios' package in Fedora bugzilla and the Dell guys will try to > >help you debug. > > Yes, of course, my **internal** wifi card /is/ disabled in the BIOS! > (You may not have read my FedoraForum thread) > > dellWirelessCtl is reporting correctly regarding the internal card (only). > > But why should this concern the external, removable cards??
Because you've flipped the "kill my wireless" button. If you didn't want to kill your wireless, don't flip the button. It's a decision to treat any killswitch as killing all wireless devices of the same class. I don't believe it's useful to have individual killswitches apply to individual devices of the same class. Dan > Why should NetworkManager get info from the BIOS regarding the *internal* > device, and, based on that, disable Wifi globally, for ALL the cards, > including the removable ones, which are configured and working perfectly > (with wpa_supplicant) > > (the goal here is to use my external, removable Atheros card, and keep the > built-in card disabled in the BIOS) > > This looks like an algorithmic oversight in the NM's code. Also, I would > think, an easy fix (if only i knew C!) > > Thanks in advance! > > andrew > > > >Dan > > > >> For a quick & dirty fix: any way to force the disabled/enabled switch in > >> the > >NM source? Again, i tried to find this in the source and failed. Where is > >it? > >> > >> I wonder if this can be considered a bug or glitch -- my situation > >apparently presents a need for NM to be more user-configurable here. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> >HAL found a killswitch and NM is honoring the setting of that killswitch > >> >apparently. > >> > > >> >Dan > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >NM keeps saying "wlan1: link is not ready" > >> >> > > >> >> >Yet, I can do "iwconfig" and "iwlist" with NO problem whatsoever, with > >good > >> > > >> >> >results. Plus, as i said earlier (this seems VERY significant), i can > >> >connect > >> >> >with wpa_supplicant no prob (all the while NM is saying "wireless is > >> >> >disabled"!) > >> >> > > >> >> >>It could also be that you've disabled the device in > >> >> >>system-config-network, in which case the menu will say the device is > >> >> >>"unmanaged". > >> >> > > >> >> >I have played with system-config-network every which way, before. > >"wlan1" > >> >(and > >> >> >"wlan0") are both assigned to NM, ("Controlled by NM" is checked). > >(wlan0 > >> >> >versus wlan1 is created depending on which atheros card i insert -- i > >have > >> >two > >> >> >at my disposal) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >>dan > > _______________________________________________ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list