Do you think this approach is feasible? If not, is there any other solution?

Regards
James Su

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Zhe Su <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> network-manager-applet has a piece of code to create a new default
> connection when connecting to a device which doesn't have connection yet.
> See function applet_menu_item_activate_helper() in applet.c line 313.
> I'm wondering if it's ok to export this piece of code through
> org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings interface.
> Maybe a new method: GetConnectionsForDevice(o: device), which returns
> existing connections for a specific device, or creates and returns a new
> default connection, if there is no connection for the device yet.
>
> Regards
> James Su
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 09:25 +0800, Zhe Su wrote:
>> > Thanks for your feedback.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >         On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 23:47 +0800, Zhe Su wrote:
>> >         > Hi,
>> >         >   I'm writing an application which needs to control network
>> >         manager
>> >         > via its dbus service, especially to connect the wifi to a
>> >         specified
>> >         > access point. I'm using openSUSE 11 with network manager
>> >         0.7. After
>> >         > reading the documentation and source code of network manager
>> >         applet, I
>> >         > found that a connection object must be created for the
>> >         access point
>> >         > before calling network manager to activate the ap. However
>> >         seems that
>> >         > it's only possible to create connection object by using
>> >         functions
>> >         > provided by libnm-{glib,utils}. There is no corresponding
>> >         methods
>> >         > exported through dbus. But I don't want to make my
>> >         application depend
>> >         > on libnm.
>> >         >   So I'm wondering if there is any way to achieve my goal
>> >         with nm's
>> >         > dbus service only?
>> >
>> >
>> >         Do you expect the applet to be running alongside your program?
>> > Yes.
>> >
>> >
>> >         _Something_ needs to provide the Connection details to
>> >         NetworkManager,
>> >         and right now that's the applet.  If you want to replace the
>> >         applet  and
>> >         provide your own org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings
>> >         service,
>> >         that would work.
>> > I'm going to use existing settings service instead of providing a new
>> > one. The problem is, current org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSettings
>> > interface doesn't have a method to create a new connection for a
>> > specific device and access point, which makes it impossible to
>> > activate the device in my application if there is no connection for
>> > that device yet. And it might be handy to have a method in
>> > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager to activate a specific device without
>> > specifying the connection (a temporary default connection shall be
>> > created and used by network manager), so that network manager can
>> > still work in many cases without settings service.
>>
>> No, creating a temporary connection won't work because no settings
>> service provides that connection over dbus.  Thus, nothing (like the
>> applet or your application) can actually figure out the connection
>> details, and thus won't know what the connection's name is, what it's
>> uuid is, what it's IP settings are supposed to be etc.  NetworkManager
>> _consumes_ connections, it doesn't provide them.  Thus, something else
>> must provide them.
>>
>> You could try writing out the connection you wish to use directly to
>> GConf, and then the applet will pick that connection up automatically
>> and you can tell NM to activate it.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> > And when will nm 0.7 be released officially?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > James Su
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >         Once you have provided the connection object over D-Bus, NM
>> >         can find it,
>> >         and you can tell NM to activate that connection.  You can
>> >         BSS-lock that
>> >         connection to the particular AP you're interested in.
>> >
>> >         Dan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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