On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 12:00 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 11:43 -0300, José Queiroz wrote: > > Sorry for the naive answer, but, if you're not using wireless, why do > > you have a wireless adapter in your system? > > It's a laptop (high end developer laptop) with built in bluetooth and > 802.11 a/b/g/n wifi. Why do I have it? I am using it. Sometimes when > I don't have hard wired. It's build-in so removing it is non-trivial > and sort of senseless if you think about it. > > > Is this some kind of mobile device, like a noteboot/netbook? Doesn't > > it have some kind of "rfkill" button??? > > It does but it only controls the bluetooth for some reason. My previous > laptop, it controlled both but not this one for some reason. It's my > understanding that the switch is a soft switch, in any case, which does > not physically or electrically disable the device itself and depends on > the OS and drivers to do the right thing. So it may be a driver issue > at that. But should it be in the kernel drivers or handled by NM? I > don't see the Wifi antenna symbol light up until NM is active.
The other alternative is blacklisting the kernel module that controls the wifi device. Dan > Regardless, it should be possible to configure NM to do what I want, not > arbitrarily always what it thinks it should in spite of what I've set it > to. That's been my perpetual complaint about NM. I concur with the > idea that things should just work out of the box, but then it should > obey what I want it to do, if I don't want it to do what it's doing. > It's a vast improvement over the bad old days where almost nothing was > properly configurable and I'm glad to see that this, at least, has been > already addressed in a newer release and that I'm not the only one with > this annoyance. That's progress. > > Mike > > > 2010/3/15 Michael H. Warfield <m...@wittsend.com> > > Hey all, > > > > Pop question. This is one of my burning annoyances with > > NetworkManager > > and maybe there's an easy way to do this and I just can't find > > it. > > But... How do I disable wireless networking by default. I > > can disable > > it but, the next time I log in, it's enabled again. I want it > > stone > > cold dead unless I overtly and explicitly choose to enabled it > > and then > > I want it off if I log out and log back in again. > > > > The problem is that I work in an environment that is very rich > > in IPv6 > > support, at home and at work and on the road and at my > > colocation > > facility. I have v6 everywhere. The problem is that NM > > brings up wlan0 > > long after eth0 has been up and then the wlan0 interface gets > > hit with a > > new RA (router advertisement) which then causes all the v6 > > traffic to be > > routed out through the wireless WHICH I DO NOT WANT even > > though the v4 > > default route is out eth0. Because wlan0 gets the RA later > > than the > > eth0 address in response to its RD (router discovery) request, > > it has a > > later expiration time on the routes so it gets preference over > > the eth0 > > interface. This is by design. It's the way v6 is suppose to > > work and > > is how you renumber autoconfed v6 networks. But is screws me > > over > > royally when I'm in a situation where I've got a hard wired > > network > > connection and the wireless is less than stable and keeps > > screwing up > > all my v6 connections. Disabling it after logging in is > > useless because > > it has already brought it up and loaded the v6 routes with a > > new default > > and that then just breaks things. > > > > I want wireless off and to STAY OFF unless I want it on and > > know that I > > want it on. But I can't find a sticky setting that basically > > tells it > > to play dead and STAY DEAD. (The wireless "switch" on my > > laptop only > > switches the bluetooth, unfortunately). > > > > Mike > > -- > > Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 | > > m...@wittsend.com > > /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/ | (678) 463-0932 | > > http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ > > NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in > > the best of all > > PGP Key: 0x674627FF | possible worlds. A pessimist is > > sure of it! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NetworkManager-list mailing list > > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NetworkManager-list mailing list > > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list > > _______________________________________________ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list _______________________________________________ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list