On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 8:56 AM Thomas Haller <thal...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-10-26 at 23:16 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:29 PM Thomas Haller <thal...@redhat.com> > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I think that "we" (the NetworkManager community) will try to get a > > > mailman mailing list on freedesktop.org. There is already > > > modemmanager-de...@lists.freedesktop.org, so this seems a good fit. > > > Our > > > git is also on gitlab.freedesktop.org. > > > > > > > > > That's unfortunate to hear, would you mind elaborating more on what > > made you decide not to migrate to Discourse? > > Just personal preference (of myself and others). > > While I wish that mailman would have some improvements, overall it's > suitable for our needs. It served us well. I probably just don't know > what I am missing out, but I still don't see it. > > NetworkManager historically is both a GNOME and a freedesktop project > (we use gitlab.freedesktop.org, while applet and VPN plugins are on > gitlab.gnome.org). Having a freedesktop mailing list would fit the > project too. If it weren't for that, I wouldn't know where else to > migrate and would stronger consider discourse. > > > On a side note, it's not a big problem... But I don't understand the > urgency of sending an announcment and shutting the list down > (basically) immediately afterwards. A longer grace period would have > been better. I was ignorant of these plans. That ignorance is my fault, > but a simple email to the list would have helped. > The migration to Discourse has been in the discussion for years [1], further actions were also communicated in August/September [2] and [3]. Either way thanks for your feedback, we'll try to improve the process next time anything like this happens. > > > > > It's also unclear whether we should try to automatically subscribe > > > the > > > current list subscribers to the new place. I think we should do > > > that. > > > > > > Opinions? > > > > > > > > > We can provide you the subscribers list if the decision you want to > > pursue is subscribing existing list members on the new hosting > > platform. > > that would be great. Thank you. I probably will come back to you about > this. > > As GNOME plans to leave the archive up as read-only, that's sufficient. > But I am worried that on a few years that will be shut down and the > history lost. If that ever happens, we should try to archive the > history somewhere. Would it be possible to get a dump of the entire > archive? > List archives are mainly composed of HTML files, I don't foresee any particular reason on why the history of 20+ years of mails stored in a mail archive would be shut down in the future, please don't worry about that. [1] https://discourse.gnome.org/t/common-questions-re-mailman-to-discourse/11841/9 [2] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-August/msg00004.html [3] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html -- Cheers, Andrea Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat, GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator, Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary, GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it
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