I also have ChanOp experience on IRC, and would happy to lend my services... however, the trick lies in having several (>5) bots that would protect against channel takeovers. And I don't have a dedicated connection to be able to host bots. Take care, Paul Well if I could get 4 people to pitch in $10/each a month I could, serve it of a cable modem.... :P No that is true bots are needed.... Andre