my copy of Paint shop pro requires a bit of time to open, about the same as
opening gimp, on my box anyway, and I often consider lifting the hands away
from the key board to be more time consuming and less ergonomic than keeping
the hands either on or off the keyboard, and consider going for the mouse or
back from the mouse one step, then the action to be an additional step.
Heck we could count the times your finger moves off the mouse and find that
it even requires less finger motion in gimp.
why would you not have selected just the area you want (to save) to crop
before the screen capture, then you save the step of cropping it later? that
is the defualt behaviour if I recall. just mouse the area and hold the left
mouse button and drag over the area and it will save the correct size image
right off the bat...
it is also possible to map any combination of keys to what ever you desire,
you just might loose whatever functionality was previously assinged that key
combo.
you may also not be considering (if you find your way faster) the time
reqiured for the application to open, or that you have to open an app after
you save the screenshot to the clipboard.
On Monday 01 July 2002 12:48 pm, you wrote:Thanks for your helpful response,
et.
I had not yet tried to use Gimp, but thanks to your message, now I have.
>From the first quick look, I'm sure Gimp is going to be an excellent tool.
However, as I followed the scenario you described, I found it to be very
slow and cumbersome by comparison with the very simple two-step procedure
that I have been used to: (1) press Print Screen, (2) click on "Paste" in
any target application.
What you described involves more than 11 separate steps ...
and then I still don't know what to do
to crop the captured image to just the portion I want:
(1) Click on K
(2) move mouse cursor up to multimedia
(3) move mouse cursor across to graphics
(4) move mouse cursor across and down to Gimp
(5) click on Gimp
(6) click on file
(7) move cursor down to acquire
(8) move cursor across to screenshot
(9) click on screenshot
(10) click on whole screen
(11) click on OK
Now, I want to crop the image I have captured to just one
small element (not a window) of the screen.
How does one "crop" a captured image with Gimp?
What you described as typical of "winders" is not my experience at all.
(I don't use Photoshop, but Lview, Paint Shop Pro, and Pagemaker mostly.)
There is absolutely not a nano-second delay in any of those to "paste" a
captured image into any one of them where cropping, resizing, and editing
the image is a snap.
I have created a desktop icon for Ksnapshot, as you suggested, but that
does not reduce any of the 11 steps you described above.
Still looking for a much, much more efficient way to replicate the extremely
simple "Print Screen" image capture procedure.
But I sincerely do appreciate your ideas and suggestions ...
Joe
On Monday 01 July 2002 03:56, you wrote:
> in linux the keystrokes are earlier, start gimp first (in winders you
> would have caputered first, then opened the image manipulation program)
> then capture. see if that is less keystroke and mouse moves assuming you
> use KDE and have gimp installed, mouse "K" menu, > multimedia, > graphics,
> > The Gimp, > file, > aquire, > screenshot >. (no keys mouse only)
> in winders hand off mouse, to keyboard, print screen, back to mouse start
> > adobe > Photoshop > (get coffee), > open screenshot, (stir coffee),>
> crop picture, (gee was allready the size I wanted in gimp). you could also
> create a desktop icon for the applications like Ksnapshot to make it click
> and point.
>
> On Sunday 30 June 2002 06:43 pm, you wrote:
> > Alastair wrote:
> > > There's an easier way from KDE - do Alt-F2 then type ksnapshot. The
> > > snapshot is grabbed immediately you press Return, then the ksnapshot
> > > window appears and you can do what you like with it.
> >
> > This is helpful . . . however, my original question was: is there any
> > way to do a "Print Screen" in Linux . . . >> which would be comparable
> > in simplicity and ease-of-use << . . . to the way it works with MS
> > windows?
> >
> > Again, I want to emphasize that I am definitely pro-Linux, however when
> > something as useful and basic as Print Screen works as well and
> > efficiently as it does under MS windows, then I would hope that the
> > Linux community would be eager to develop an equal or superior
> > functionality for Linux.
> >
> > In this case, it seems that what has been suggested for Linux thus far
> > is not nearly as simple and efficient as as the MS Print Screen feature.
> >
> > Simplicity and easy of use is not subjective. It is determined by how
> > few steps (keystrokes and separate manual operations) are required.
> >
> > In the case of MS Print Screen, there are only two steps:
> >
> > #1. Press the Print Screen button.
> > #2. Press "paste" in any application program in which one desires to
> > place the captured image.
> >
> > I use it numerous times almost every day, capturing screen prints and
> > pasting them in LView (the most easy-to-use, versatile, graphics tool I
> > have), or in Paint or in Paint Shop Pro or in Pagemaker or in any other
> > application program where I can quickly and easily crop, resize, or edit
> > the captured image.
> >
> > For comparison, using Ksnapshot with Linux, there are literally dozens
> > of steps and keystrokes involved in saving a captured image to a file
> > then opening that file within any given application program.
> >
> > Why is it not possible, with Linux, to use the Print Screen key to
> > simply capture a screen image into memory (as MS clipboard apparently
> > does) so that it can be pasted, from memory, into any given application
> > program without having to go through all the extra steps of saving the
> > captured image to a file first and then several more steps and
> > keystrokes to import the saved file into any given application?
> >
> > Surely there must be a way to do this.
> >
> > Joe
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