On January 12, 2003 05:26 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > snip Not ranting at you Jerry, just ranting. Random snips to follow. :-) > > mine mounts the beta 2 as ext2 just fine, not sure why you're having that > problem... as for lilo if, when you install, at the very first screen you > press F1 for more options and at boot: put expert, you get more options. > you can write the lilo for beta1 on the first sector of the boot partition > (/dev/hda8 on mine)
I was already installing as "expert" Jerry; but thanks, 'cause the advice may be beneficial to someone else. I managed to get the beta installed. Three times in fact. The trouble is the incompatibility in the file system versions. What works with 9.0 won't work with 9.1 beta1 and vice versa. Every partition on my hard drives that Mandrake has been allowed to utilize were all formatted XFS for more months (pre 8.2 release) than I care to recall since that worked the best with my hardware environment. The only exceptions to that were /boot and / (root) on hda since the install of 9.0 required a bit of fiddling to be bootable and usable on my machine. While I'll do almost anything to make a distribution I'm interested in trying/buying work I; *will not ever lose my personal data because of programmer's/developer's choices to change things to fit their pet projects or test their theories.* Period, final, no fscking discussion. This ain't Microsloth. I don't have to do things their way, and I won't. I previously posted the hardware list. The oldest hard drive is about 14 months. Mandrake doesn't touch that one or the next oldest. The two it is are less than a year of age. The rest of the hardware (bar the RAM which is all less than a year old) is circa December 1999. If that's too old to suit Mandrake they can keep the damned distribution. I've never liked the color of a certain hat either. > > again i think this is in the expert install option I reiterate that I *was* in expert mode. I got no choice and still couldn't make a boot disk at the command line after install or from Mandrake Control Center. "file not found" > > X configuration is done on the Summary screen. Where it gives you the > resolution (mine defaulted to 1024x768) press that button. My first > install didn't configure X right automatically so I re-installed with > "Upgrade," didn't install any packages, and ran the X configuration Not on any of the three installs I managed to complete or the one 'upgrade' that broke it completely just before I did the disk recovery. The graphics adapter and the monitor were identified properly and the display was set (supposedly but with strange inconsistencies) at the 1024x768 that I usually use anyway. The point was that I wouldn't have been able to continue since the option to change settings/configure X wasn't offered. > > Software manager, add software.... > > CD-1 not enabled. > > B******T it is too! urpmi at the command line CD-1 not > > enabled. Add sources, command line and MCC, errors (didn't save them) see > > Ya! > > I too had this problem. I went to MCC, Software Management Select Sources > and removed / re-added the cdrom and it worked fine I had to remove and re-add the freakin' *install disk?* Yeah.....that makes _so_ much sense, beta or not. The ISO was mounted as a loopback on hdb on the previous second partition. beta1 couldn't access it. Still is in fact. While I have lots of disk space it's my disk space. Since the kernel can't use XFS what happens when those (like myself) that took advice on this list and tested that file system and chose it because they found it the most suited to their hardware? Especially those that only have one hard drive to work with? Can't do an upgrade can we? Won't install on XFS partitions so have to reformat so then; _what's the difference between that and a total re-install that loses all your settings and configuration, personalization, and data?_ > > There's a LOT of stuff missing as far as packages go... I couldn't build > ANYTHING new to add to it, I agree, but this being a 1 CD beta I imagine > they're probably looking for feedback on installation and basic operation. There's nothing missing at all Jerry, all one _should_ have to do after a beta install is add cooker sources and install the rest of the packages. I couldn't force it to let me go that route. That's not the point. Install is broken in many ways. The basic operation stinks: scrolling is jerky and inconsistent, sound card identified but no way to adjust volume which it seems is at zero by default, harddrake didn't work, the kernel chosen is an utter piece of dung that eats every processor cycle available and all of the memory (768 MB) and (512 MB) swap space and I couldn't reconfigure the "network" that this machine isn't connected to since if I tried to disable the LAN it insisted on "recognizing" I had no internet connection. Is that enough feedback? > > I had the option to set up a cable connection... perhaps that again is in > the expert install Please don't guess Jerry. I configured my cable connection. The point was that I had to configure a damned network I don't have! > > Sorry to hear that, and hope that Beta 2 etc. can change your mind, It is > in quite the preliminary stage and I'm sure it'll improve. I said I'd give the final release of 9.1 a chance Jerry, I didn't say anything about bolting. I'm sure things will improve, but I sincerely hope that they don't improve until it's nearly unusable the way things turned out with Dolphin. beta2 to RC1 of 9.0 had the usual glitches that were fixed and everything that I used worked. Stable and consistent. Then RC2 came along and the supermount gremlins were back as well as a number of other aggravating "features." If I had taken my own (oft repeated) advice and kept back-ups of packages that were working better than the release does I'd probably still be a happy 'Draker. I wanted the boot screen to say something other than Cooker or RC1 though so did a fresh install. Onus is on me for that, not Mandrakesoft. But then I wasn't the one that broke the distribution either, was I? When I get too frustrated with Mandrake there's always a reboot to ELX or BearOS for a few days. It's nice to have lots of disk space, and choices. > Jerry. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org If the meanings of "true" and "false" were switched, then this sentence would not be false.
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