On Saturday 01 February 2003 10:09, civileme wrote:
> On Friday 31 January 2003 06:12 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > On Friday 31 January 2003 02:33 pm, Gil Katz wrote:
> > > On Friday 31 January 2003 20:20, civileme wrote:
> > > > On Friday 31 January 2003 02:47 am, Gil Katz wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday 30 January 2003 10:45, Gil Katz wrote:
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > I bought a new WD 80GB disk and mount it with HardDrake and made
> > > > > > one partition but when i look in KDiskFree i see that i got only
> > > > > > 25 GB. What is wrong?
> > > > > > Gil
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll refine the problem
> > > > > DiskDrake see the disk as is (74 GB)
> > > > > but KDiskFree see only 2.5 HD
> > > > > Gil
> > > >
> > > > Well WD is not a brand to buy since trhey OFFICIALLY support only
> > > > Solaris and Windows, and besides they are hardware deficient on what
> > > > it takes to do udma3 or higher and dangerous to use for your data at
> > > > higher rates. Others can supply the info and links, but I will give
> > > > you one...
> > > >
> > > > http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/kt20000214_54.html#2
> > > >
> > > > Basically WD disks are bad juju for linux.
> > > >
> > > > The real problem here may be one of mathematics, though.  WD has this
> > > > penchant for producing single-platter disks with one rack of heads
> > > > each side (weigh it on a scale against competitive products and you
> > > > will find the WD disk lighter)
> > > >
> > > > This means that the track number may be overflowing what Kdiskfree
> > > > has available for track numbers with a resulting problem in viewing
> > > > the disk. At one time the linux kernel would carve up big WD drives
> > > > differently than the BIOS would with results that were just
> > > > fantastic, but no other drives had ANY problems.  This was true in
> > > > Mandrake 7.1 and 7.2 for certain, but was corrected in kernel 2.2.19.
> > > >
> > > > Now, stop trusting kdf and let's see what dmesg says.  Post the
> > > > results and we'll see what the kernel says about free space.  If
> > > > there is still a problem, most likely the kernel's math will have to
> > > > be adjusted for the most recent WD "cheapness" shortcut and another
> > > > item will have to be added to the kernel's internal blacklist of
> > > > cantankerous drives requiring special handling.
> > > >
> > > > Civileme
> > >
> > > This is the dmesg say
> > >
> > > Linux version 2.4.19-16mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
> > > 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.0 3.2-1mdk)) #1 Fri Sep 20 18:15:05 CEST 2002
> > > BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
> > >  BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)
> > >  BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
> > >  BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
> > >  BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000013ffc000 (usable)
> > >  BIOS-e820: 0000000013ffc000 - 0000000013fff000 (ACPI data)
> > >  BIOS-e820: 0000000013fff000 - 0000000014000000 (ACPI NVS)
> > >  BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
> > > 319MB LOWMEM available.
> > > Advanced speculative caching feature not present
> > > On node 0 totalpages: 81916
> > > zone(0): 4096 pages.
> > > zone(1): 77820 pages.
> > > zone(2): 0 pages.
> > > Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=305 quiet
> > > devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi
> > > ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
> > > ide_setup: hdc=ide-scsi
> > > Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling.
> > > Found and enabled local APIC!
> > > Initializing CPU#0
> > > Detected 453.179 MHz processor.
> > > Console: colour dummy device 80x25
> > > Calibrating delay loop... 904.39 BogoMIPS
> > > Memory: 321644k/327664k available (1176k kernel code, 5632k reserved,
> > > 444k data, 136k init, 0k highmem)
> > > Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
> > > Inode cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
> > > Mount-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
> > > Buffer-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
> > > Page-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
> > > CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000, vendor = 0
> > > CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
> > > CPU: L2 cache: 512K
> > > CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
> > > Intel machine check architecture supported.
> > > Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
> > > CPU:     After generic, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
> > > CPU:             Common caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
> > > CPU: Intel Pentium III (Katmai) stepping 03
> > > Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
> > > Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
> > > Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
> > > POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
> > > enabled ExtINT on CPU#0
> > > ESR value before enabling vector: 00000000
> > > ESR value after enabling vector: 00000000
> > > Using local APIC timer interrupts.
> > > calibrating APIC timer ...
> > > ..... CPU clock speed is 453.1857 MHz.
> > > ..... host bus clock speed is 100.7078 MHz.
> > > cpu: 0, clocks: 1007078, slice: 503539
> > > CPU0<T0:1007072,T1:503520,D:13,S:503539,C:1007078>
> > > mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > > mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
> > > PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0890, last bus=1
> > > PCI: Using configuration type 1
> > > PCI: Probing PCI hardware
> > > Unknown bridge resource 0: assuming transparent
> > > PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/0596] at 00:04.0
> > > Activating ISA DMA hang workarounds.
> > > isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
> > > isapnp: Card 'U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT'
> > > isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total
> > > Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
> > > Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
> > > Initializing RT netlink socket
> > > apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16)
> > > Starting kswapd
> > > VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.5.0 initialized
> > > devfs: v1.12a (20020514) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > > devfs: boot_options: 0x1
> > > vesafb: framebuffer at 0xe2000000, mapped to 0xd4800000, size 4096k
> > > vesafb: mode is 800x600x16, linelength=1600, pages=3
> > > vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:03d4
> > > vesafb: scrolling: redraw
> > > vesafb: directcolor: size=0:5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0
> > > Looking for splash picture.... found (800x600, 30412 bytes).
> > > Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x16
> > > fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device
> > > pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
> > > Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS
> > > MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
> > > ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
> > > ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
> > > ttyS02 at port 0x03e8 (irq = 11) is a 16550A
> > > Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
> > > ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
> > > idebus=xx VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 21
> > > VP_IDE: chipset revision 16
> > > VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> > > VP_IDE: VIA vt82c596b (rev 23) IDE UDMA66 controller on pci00:04.1
> > >     ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd800-0xd807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
> > >     ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd808-0xd80f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
> > > hda: WDC WD102AA, ATA DISK drive
> > > hdb: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
> > > hdc: ATAPI-CD ROM-DRIVE-52MAX, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
> > > hdd: WDC WD800JB-00CRA1, ATA DISK drive
> > > ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe
> > > ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> > > ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> > > hda: 20044080 sectors (10263 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=1247/255/63,
> > > UDMA(33) hdd: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/8192KiB Cache,
> > > CHS=155061/16/63, UDMA(33) Partition check:
> > >  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 < p5 p6 > p2
> > >  /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0: p1
> > > RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize
> > > md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
> > > md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
> > > md: autorun ...
> > > md: ... autorun DONE.
> > > NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
> > > IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
> > > IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 16Kbytes
> > > TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 65536)
> > > Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
> > > NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
> > > RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
> > > Freeing initrd memory: 51k freed
> > > VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
> > > Mounted devfs on /dev
> > > Mounted devfs on /dev
> > > Freeing unused kernel memory: 136k freed
> > > Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
> > > usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
> > > usb.c: registered new driver hub
> > > usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 18:49:04 Sep 20 2002
> > > usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
> > > PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:04.2
> > > PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:0d.0
> > > usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xd400, IRQ 9
> > > usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
> > > usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
> > > hub.c: USB hub found
> > > hub.c: 2 ports detected
> > > usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
> > > usbdevfs: remount parameter error
> > > Adding Swap: 610460k swap-space (priority -1)
> > > SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
> > > scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
> > >   Vendor: HL-DT-ST  Model: CD-RW GCE-8240B   Rev: 1.07
> > >   Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> > >   Vendor: ATAPI-CD  Model: ROM-DRIVE-52MAX   Rev: 52JA
> > >   Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> > > Journalled Block Device driver loaded
> > > kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
> > > EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.17, 10 Jan 2002 on ide1(22,65), internal journal
> > > EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
> > > ohci1394: $Rev: 530 $ Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:0c.0
> > > ohci1394_0: OHCI-1394 1.0 (PCI): IRQ=[10]  MMIO=[df800000-df800800] 
> > > Max Packet=[2048]
> > > ieee1394: Host added: Node[00:1023]  GUID[00309526b0031864]  [Linux
> > > OHCI-1394] PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:0d.0
> > > PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:04.2
> > > 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html
> > > 00:0d.0: 3Com PCI 3c905B Cyclone 100baseTx at 0xb400. Vers LK1.1.16
> > > IPVS: Connection hash table configured (size=4096, memory=32Kbytes)
> > > IPVS: Each connection entry needs 116 bytes at least
> > > IPVS: ipvs loaded.
> > > CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
> > > PPP generic driver version 2.4.2
> > > Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
> > > PCI: Found IRQ 5 for device 00:0a.0
> > > parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP]
> > > parport0: irq 7 detected
> > > lp0: using parport0 (polling).
> > > inserting floppy driver for 2.4.19-16mdk
> > > Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
> > > FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
> > > Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
> > > Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0
> > > sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
> > > Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
> > > sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 0x/52x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
> > > /dev/vmmon: Module vmmon: registered with major=10 minor=165 tag=$Name:
> > > build-1790 $
> > > /dev/vmmon: Module vmmon: initialized
> > > /dev/vmnet: open called by PID 2037 (vmnet-bridge)
> > > /dev/vmnet: hub 0 does not exist, allocating memory.
> > > /dev/vmnet: port on hub 0 successfully opened
> > > bridge-eth0: up
> > > bridge-eth0: attached
> > > /dev/vmnet: open called by PID 2063 (vmnet-natd)
> > > /dev/vmnet: hub 8 does not exist, allocating memory.
> > > /dev/vmnet: port on hub 8 successfully opened
> > > /dev/vmnet: open called by PID 2329 (vmnet-netifup)
> > > /dev/vmnet: hub 1 does not exist, allocating memory.
> > > /dev/vmnet: port on hub 1 successfully opened
> > > /dev/vmnet: open called by PID 2357 (vmnet-netifup)
> > > /dev/vmnet: port on hub 8 successfully opened
> > > /dev/vmnet: open called by PID 2352 (vmnet-dhcpd)
> > > /dev/vmnet: port on hub 1 successfully opened
> > > /dev/vmnet: open called by PID 2381 (vmnet-dhcpd)
> > > /dev/vmnet: port on hub 8 successfully opened
> > > devfs_register(raw1394): could not append to parent, err: -17
> > > raw1394: /dev/raw1394 device initialized
> > > video1394: Installed video1394 module
> > > Splash status on console 0 changed to off
> > > udf: registering filesystem
> > > UDF-fs DEBUG lowlevel.c:57:udf_get_last_session: XA disk: no,
> > > vol_desc_start=0 UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:1421:udf_read_super:
> > > Multi-session=0 UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:410:udf_vrs: Starting at sector 16
> > > (2048 byte sectors) UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:437:udf_vrs: ISO9660 Primary
> > > Volume Descriptor found UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:434:udf_vrs: ISO9660 Boot
> > > Record found
> > > UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:446:udf_vrs: ISO9660 Volume Descriptor Set
> > > Terminator found
> > > UDF-fs: No VRS found
> > > parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP]
> > > parport0: irq 7 detected
> > > lp0: using parport0 (polling).
> > > PPP BSD Compression module registered
> > > PPP Deflate Compression module registered
> > > Gil
> >
> > From above output this looks to me like your system is seeing the hard
> > drives. hda: 20044080 sectors (10263 MB) w/2048KiB Cache,
> > CHS=1247/255/63, UDMA(33) hdd: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/8192KiB
> > Cache,
> > CHS=155061/16/63,UDMA(33)
> >
> > You have hda as a 10gig running udma and  hdd is the 80 gig running udma
> > and is the western digital. Civileme will know better but from his
> > previous post the WD could be trouble for you but not as bad as if you
> > had a Maxtor in the mix. Anyway seems like the system is seeing the
> > correct sizes. But should they be running UDMA?
>
> udma2 is safe--it is only 33Mhz which is in the range of 32-byte CRCs which
> the drives can do.  The 57-byte CRCs required by udma3 and up 66-133MHz are
> beyond the capabilities of the 102 and maybe beyond the 80Mb as well; I
> have not kept up on the product through its most recent cycles since they
> seemed unwilling to change their policies.
>
> Civileme
So what is the bottom line
can i use this HD or not
and if i gona change the HD which one to choose?
Thanks
Gil
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