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From: "Rory Gleeson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?


> Ogg is difficult to support on digital audio players, since it's such a
> resource hog and a battery drain.  The Xiph foundation really hasn't
> focused on it being a portable format yet, which is hindering adoption on
> the portable player market.
>
> iRiver has had a lot of problems integrating it.  The only player that has
> successfully integrated it is the Rio Karma, which is the only player that
> has also integrated Ogg gapless playback.
>
> If you have an iPod, I would suggest ripping in MP3 LAME rather than AAC,
> as it's more versatile and you won't be locked in to Apple hardware.  The
> reason that iTunes is likely ripping so quickly as it's not taking its
time
> to properly encode.
>
> Try ripping in MP3 LAME 3.95 (anything after 3.90 supports gapless in
> MP3).  The Standard setting is a good one.  Tracks are around 200 bits and
> sound great.  It will take a long time to rip in LAME but it's worth
> it.  It's taking its time which means fewer artifacts.
>
> For those who pick products based on politics and philosophy, AAC, WMA and
> MP3 will never suit you.  But, WMA and AAC are actually good sounding
> codecs and it would be a rare occasion if someone could tell the
difference
> between them and Ogg at circa 200bits.   The problem with WMA and AAC is
> they lock you in (Steven Jobs and Bill Gates just can't seem to find a new
> song to sing after all these years), which is why I avoid them.
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> At 11:51 PM 22/04/2004, you wrote:
> >On Thursday 22 April 2004 11:44 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > > Yes Greg, after selling some of my old games and running around
looking for
> > > spare change, I did manage to buy a 10gig 3g like new iPod off of ebay
=).
> >
> >I let the coolness factor tempt me for about 10 seconds before I opted
for my
> >iriver.  No matter how cool a product, I am really having a hard time
lately
> >accepting anything that includes an attempt at proprietary lockin.  This
has
> >nothing to do with open source or GPL philosophy, just open standards.
> >
> > > Hopefully in future firmware updates, Ogg Vorbis will be supported.
> >
> >Don't hold your breath :-o
> >--
> >/g
> >
> >_____

I do have all of my tracks ripped by LAME, 160 kbps. I decided to rip them
in AAC because, in my opinion, it's better quality than mp3s. Also, with the
same number of songs, it's now half the size. 10gb can fill up quickly with
music, believe it or not.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "properly encode." I was comparing the
actual speed it took just to rip a song, not including encoding. Of course
one of the reasons it's much quicker is that iTunes encodes at virtually the
same time.

AAC doesn't lock me in in any way. There's a plugin for Linux, I can play it
in Windows, and I can play it on my iPod. That's all I need.

Now speaking of my iPod...my firewire pcmcia card should be coming soon so I
can actually put music on it.
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