Heh. :) I run WM now, but I like kfm, so I tend to start it, and it gives me just eh icons on the desktop. No panel, or anything else. I kinda like it. :) Ty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 12/4/99, 11:38:13 PM, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding [newbie] running multi GUI's for fun...: > As I'm trying to find a way to crash my box (nothing important saved > yet), I tried running WM and Kde at the same time. Happened by accident > the other night when I typed "startkde" in an Xterm while running WM . > I'm doing it again, this time under Xfce. So I get the pop up menu/menu > bar/windows borders/backdrop as in Xfce, but I still have my KDE desktop > icons which are fully functional. I'll see what happens after I open > ~30 apps :-). > Later > -Josh