Partition Magic/Boot Magic, Raneesh (sp?) Partition (something), and a few other tools for resizing existing partitions. One word of caution...defrag/scandisk existing Windows info, and disable Norton Utilities, before starting this proceedure. Read all the HELP for your method of choice for resizing, and follow those directions as close as you can. Also a full/total backup of your Windows DATA, would be nice in case of failure. HTH Jaguar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Dan, > > Thanks for the helpful suggestions, and thanks to everyone for all of the > helpful suggestions. There are a few things I have noticed in all of the > help I have received on this matter. It appears that many are coming from > the perspective of a clean install, in other words a blank hard drive, > where you are installing Linux or a much smaller hard drive. Also I have > understood what everyone has been saying in regards to the various > partitions I will need for both Linux and Windows(these I already obviously > have), and for Linux I will be needing "/", "/boot", "/swap", and I will > probably go ahead and build myself a "/home" while I am at it. > > The problem I have had in understanding what to do is not with the above, > but with my "Current" Windows Partition. You see it sets to the left side > of my currently single disk partition on my C:\drive(duh) however it > extends beyond the 1024th cylinder boundary. OK, so here is where I have > been confused since the first day I went at it (although today I think I am > finally getting it) How does one cut their Windows Partition in lets say > half, and move the right half of it further to the right, creating the > necessary room for the "/" directory for Linux below the 1024th cylinder > boundary? > > Wayne mentioned that he split his hard drive in half and put his entire > C:\drive to the right and his "/" to the left of his C:\drive, this made > actual sense to me, however I then had the question, do not 'dos' and 'win' > require the same location below the 1024th cylinder in order to boot? > > So, I was back to the same original question that I have had since I first > wrote into the list, and evidently failed to properly communicate to all of > you wonderful helpers out there. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > How do I split my Windows Partition and create the room needed for the "/" > partition on the *LEFT* side of my hard drive without *destroying* my > Windows/DOS Partition, since my Windows Partition extends beyond the 1024th > cylinder boundary? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This is really the only question I have had all along. > > Much Thanks to everyone and many a good Mandrake install to you all. > b/web > > At 08:55 AM 4/20/00 -0400, you wrote: > > Hi > > I just installed a 15 gig harddrive and made four partitions with > >linux fdisk and installed Mandrake 7 on the first partition. As long as > >you keep your boot partition below cylinder 1024 you shouldn't have a > >problem. Probably your bios must see the whole drive for this to work. > >Hope this helps. > > > > Dan > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> Hi Alan and All, > >> > >> I decided to go ahead and spend some more $money$ on my Linux Mandrake > >> distribution, which I have learned was pretty much inevitable if I had any > >> hopes of getting it installed within my time parameters. > >> > >> I think it is important that I mention here for clarity's sake, that if you > >> are a newbie and you have a hard drive that is over 8GB's, you will 'most > >> likely' have to spend more money to purchase another program to work > >> through the partitioning of your hard drive. I think it should actually say > >> this on the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete Box, under the system requirements, > >> that if your hard drive is larger than 8GB's you will may need to purchase > >> another utility in order to install Linux Mandrake or any other Linux > >> distribution on your system in a very user friendly way. The included > >> version 3.0 of Partition Magic will not suffice to do the job in a workable > >> manner. > >> > >> You may also run into the 1024th cylinder barrier as I did and later found > >> out it was 'infamous', and then the also included Boot Magic will not > >> install. I do have to say that I am enjoying learning all of this stuff I > >> never knew about hard drive partitions. :) > >> > >> The application actually cost more than the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete > >> distribution, however if you have purchased this version of Linux and > >> received the non usable for over 8GB hard dirves version 3, then you are > >> elligible for a 40% discount on your upgrade to an actual working version > >> of Partition Magic, which currently is 5.01. Also I want to note to all, > >> that the Partition Magic manufacturer 'PowerQuest.com', look as if they are > >> also owned by MS, as they are almost overly proud partners of MS and have > >> the MS name all over their web site. > >> > >> All of this aside, if it works well for me I will be happy I have it, it > >> seems to have many, new to me, powerful features that I may indeed find > >> very, very useful. Although I am fairly certain that you could take other > >> routes to installation of Linux on a large hard drive, (using fdisk, fips, > >> cfsidk, LILO, etc) I have been thinking of my return deadline, perhaps I > >> should just forget about that, and instead commit myself to accomplishing > >> the task I have set at hand. :) > >> > >> I want my Linux! > >> > >> b/web > >> > >> At 02:21 PM 4/18/00 -0700, you wrote: > >> >b/web....you need to have two things before the 1024th cylinder. > >> > > >> >1) your primary windows partition (it'll be drive C:) needs to > >> >end before the 1024th cylinder (you can have another windows > >> >partition that uses whatever other disc space left and it'll be > >> >drive D:). > >> > > >> >2) a small (16-24 megs) linux partition that you will have to > >> >assign the mount point of /boot when you install linux. This > >> >can be before or after the windows partition, but it does need > >> >to end before the 1024th cylinder also. > >> > > >> >So, withinin the first (approximately 8 meg) 1023 cylinders of > >> >the 17 gig drive you must have a primary dos partition that is > >> >set active and has windows installed on it > >> > > >> >and > >> > > >> >a 16-24 meg linux partition. > >> > > >> >then the rest of the drive can contain > >> > > >> >a) a second dos partition of any size > >> > > >> >and > >> > > >> >b) the rest of the partitions needed for the linux installation, > >> >but at a minimum, a linux partition of 2-4 gig (or larger) that > >> >will be assigned the mount point of / during linux > >> >installation and a linux swap partition (size depends on your > >> >memory size and intended usage, but let's say no les than 64 meg > >> >and no larger than 128 meg). > >> > > >> >Alan > >> > > >> > > >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi, I am now on my sixth day since I went out and purchased the brand > new > >> >> Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete OS, and I still do not have it installed > on my > >> >> system, I only have four days left before I run out of time at the > Software > >> >> store to return it for a full refund. > >> >> > >> >> I am going through install h*ll with the Cylinder 1024 /boot directory > >> >> thing or obstacle, which I now know to be infamous. I also now > understand > >> >> that Linux requires this Cylinder location for a /boot directory to be > >> >> inserted(crazy man)? I also understand that the included boot program > for > >> >> the Linux Mandrake OS called 'Boot Magic' will not install and set up > on my > >> >> system because it says I do not have a Primary Partition below the > 1024th > >> >> Cylinder. > >> >> > >> >> I was able to install Partition Magic and repartition my hard drive, > only > >> >> to crash into 'Boot Magic's' refusal to install after already having > >> >> repartitioned my hd. So, I departitioned my hard drive back to its > original > >> >> partition and then I uninstalled Partition Magic as I thought perhaps I > >> >> could install Boot Magic first, but all to no avail. > >> >> > >> >> I am wondering how I go about clearing this 1024th cylinder so that Boot > >> >> Magic can install itself there? Do I have to lose all of my current > >> >> information on my hd? My current Window/dos disk usage is over 3GB, do I > >> >> have to delete all of my current web servers, data bases, and a > varitey of > >> >> over 100 various applications in order to free up the space at the > 1024th > >> >> cylinder? > >> >> > >> >> I am totally lost as to how to go about opening up the space at this > >> >> cylinder, I have been informed that I can make some settings and that > I can > >> >> repartition again, neither of which I understand? If this is possible > where > >> >> and how does one make such settings? > >> >> > >> >> My hard drive is 17GB and I was intending to install MDKL on a > partition of > >> >> about 4GB slightly larger than the size of my Windows current disk > usage, > >> >> as I intend to install all of the web servers, is this not a good idea? > >> >> Does anyone know if all distributions of Linux have this same roadblock, > >> >> (1024th cylinder) to installing the OS on a system, or can I just go and > >> >> purchase Corel's or Debian's etc, instead? > >> >> > >> >> Much thanks in advance, > >> >> b/web > >> > > >> > > > > > The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
