Lee,

Your fine I just forgot that it was lower-case 'm' vice uppercase.  I'm sorry I can 
only read my e-mail at home from 4:00 AM to 6:00 AM as my work is a little restrictive 
about personal e-mail so I couldn't get back to you sooner.

As to your Starting X question it is a little more complicated.  I had this problem 
when I installed without selecting the "Start X on startup" option.  I guess when you 
do that it doesn't load some files.  I believe I may have stumbled on something that 
will help though.

Here we go. I changed my mind.  I've attached a copy of my /etc/X11/window-managers 
file put it in you /etc/X11 directory it is a safe file, you can open it and look at 
it and see that it contains no commands.

Next create a file in /etc/sysconfig named 'desktop' (no quotes) and in it have only 
one line with 'KDE' (again no quotes) but must be upper-case.

Make sure there is a file in /etc/X11/prefdm on your system.  If no I can send you 
mine.

edit /etc/inittab and up near the top is a line that says 'id:5:initdefault' yours may 
have a '3' vice a '5' change it to '5' this will make it boot to a graphic login and 
if prefdm is set up right it better be kdm.  The last line in the file should be 
'x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon' already if it is not change it to that.  Again 
the quotes don't go in just the words between them.  I don't want to insult you 
intelligence but I do want you to get your system the way you want it.

Now reboot and hopefully all will be as you want it.  The kdm login will have a 
Mandrake Penguin picture on the left of a dialog box.  If you get that your good.  
Make sure in the dropdown box where you select your window manager you have kde 
selected (or whatever you want).

Exiting plain-jane X is done by 'right-clicking' your mouse and a menu should come up 
with 'exit' or 'log-out' as an option.  If that fails <ctl>-,<alt>-<backspace> key 
combination will do it.

If you have problems with your startup into X windows after you reboot.  Reboot again 
and at the lilo: prompt type 'linux 3' (no quotes) this will drop you to run-level 3 
(dos like) and then edit /etc/inittab and change the :5: to a :3: on the first line 
there after all the comments.

Let me know if this works for you.

John


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (_lee _kinkade)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:37:55 -0500

>[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>>mount the mandrake CD. (if you installed with supermount it will mount
>>itself when you put it in)
>>
>>if you didn't use supermount.  Open a shell (dos like box).
>>
>>1. su
>>    type in root password
>>
>>  If now supermount support
>>2.  mount /dev/cdrom
>>3.  cd /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS
>>4.  rpm -Uvh Make*.rpm
>>
>>Thats it.
>>
>>John
>
>Thanks a bunch. Instructions like that I understand! I did not find
>Make*.rpm but did find make*.rpm so i did that instead. Was that a mistake?
>
>How do I use kde or gnome?  I startx, but it is plain old x AFAICT. Once
>in x, how do I exit?
>
>---
>lee
>If you don't want to know the answer, don't ask the question.
>
>
>

NAME=kde
ICON=kde.xpm
DESC=The fabulous desktop
EXEC=/usr/bin/startkde
SCRIPT:
exec startkde
--@@--
NAME=Gnome
ICON=Gnome.xpm
DESC=The another fabulous desktop
EXEC=/usr/bin/gnome-session
SCRIPT:
exec gnome-session
--@@--
NAME=WindowMaker
ICON=WindowMaker.xpm
EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/wmdrake
DESC=Another NeXt like Window-Manager
SCRIPT:
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/wmdrake
--@@--
NAME=Enlightenment
DESC=The enlightenment window manager
EXEC=/usr/bin/enlightenment
SCRIPT:
[ -f $HOME ] || {
/usr/bin/enlightenment.install
}
exec /usr/bin/enlightenment
--@@--
NAME=BlackBox
ICON=BlackBox.xpm
EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/blackbox
DESC=A Light but nice looking window manager
SCRIPT:
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/bbdrake
--@@--
NAME=AfterStep
ICON=AfterStep.xpm
EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/afterstep
DESC=A NeXt like Window-Manager
SCRIPT:
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/afterstep
--@@--
NAME=Fvwm2
EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2
DESC=A popular window manager
SCRIPT:
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2
--@@--
NAME=Icewm
ICON=icewm.xpm
EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/icewm
DESC=A Light Window-Manager
SCRIPT:
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/icewm
--@@--
NAME=Fvwm1
EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm
DESC=A very stable and light window manager
SCRIPT:
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm
--@@--
NAME=Xfce
EXEC=/usr/bin/xfwm
DESC=A CDE like window manager
SCRIPT:
[ "x$XFCE_DATA" = "x" ] && XFCE_DATA=/usr/share/xfce
exec /usr/bin/xfwm
--@@--
NAME=AnotherLevel
ICON=AnotherLevel.xpm
DESC=The AnotherLevel desktop
EXEC=/usr/share/apps/switchdesk/Xclients.anotherlevel
SCRIPT:
exec /usr/share/apps/switchdesk/Xclients.anotherlevel

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