a bit ago someone said "If you choose to use the Sawfish Window Mamanger (which has replaced Enlightenment as GNOME's default WM), then you may want to fiddle around with the settings to get it working the way you want it." now, i'm confussed about something here.... i was thinking that Enlightenment and GNOME were both window managers.... seems i'm wrong. so am i right that either KDE or GNOME is running under Enlightenment (which is what i am currently using in Mandrake 7.1). so the question is, how do i know which is running, how do i change, and what differences does it make?? thanks much... oh, ps -- if i use the most recent "red hat linux for dummies" book (they have it at the library) this would be mostly true for mandrake linux, am i right??\\ thanks again adrian Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]