Hello, After failing to be able to login as I describe below from my previous message, I was able to login using csh instead of sh but I received the following error message: warning no access to tty (inappropriate ioctl for device) thus no job control in this shell I want to fix it so I can return to using bash and get rid of this error. Any help would be appreciated. Best Regards, Timothy Old Message: I cannot login anymore. I just upgraded a few packages. In particular I upgraded initscripts to something like 5.27-20mdk. and a few others that shouldn't effect anything (ie., rpm 3.0.5 rpm-devel, rpm-python). When I rebooted I found that after typing my name and password I was returned to the login prompt after being acknowledged as logging in. I entered the system through 'I' interactive bootup and couldn't find any problems. I created a new user but to the same effect. The log records PAM_pwd[556]:(login) session opened for user my_name by LOGIN (uid=0) immediately followed by PAM_pwdb[556]:(login) session closed for user my_name I receive essentially the same result through gui logins. I received a comment that it has something to do with /etc/profile.d My system is Mandrake 7.1 on a Shuttle MVP3 motherboard, 196megs ram The packages I have installed recently include initscripts 5.27-20-mdk fileutils-4.0-13mdk rusers-0.17-2mdk procps-2.0.7-6mdk man-pages-1.31-1mdk ipchains-1.3.9-8mdk cpio-2.4.2-18mdk dev86-0.15.0-3mdk devfsd-1.3.10-3mdk firestarter-0.4.1-1mdk running firestarter after install caused a core dump. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Timothy please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]