Just FYI (under mandrake 7.1) , I found iostream.h under: /usr/include/g++-3/iostream.h The various C++ stuff /usr/doc/libstdc++-devel-2.95.2 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.3/libstdc++.so /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.3/libstdc++.a /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.1-2-2.10.0.so /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.1.so.2 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.9 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.7.2.8 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8.0 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.7.2 /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.1-2-2.10.0.a /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-2.a.3 /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libstdc++.so.27.1.4 /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libstdc++.so.27 Also, one other thing 'iostream.h' is not the current standard anymore, the standard is 'iostream' (no .h and also found under /usr/include/g++-3), but this doesn't really matter, because the code that needs to be compiled is using the old version of the streams library. I agree though, it seems like every type of installation, except for maybe a minimal one, would include the option to install the "developer files and utilities" just becuase Linux is so centered around being able to download and compile the source. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] ANSI C++ library In the past month or so at least two people asked about locating iostream.h under Mandrake. I haven't done any C++ coding and so couldn't answer their question but it seemed an odd one since, by appearances, LM installs the standard GNU compilers/libraries. I stuck it on a "check this out" list I have and that's exactly what I did today. The results? Well, I'm simply scratching my head - there is no standard ANSI C++ library to be found. Finding this pretty darn amazing I loaded up the install and went into expert mode to see I could find. Guess what? If you click on C++ in the development section you're great by a msg that says this is GNU C++ ....BUT it does NOT include the ANSI C++ library. What's up with that? What's the point of a C++ compiler without the standard library? At the time I felt like Sherlock Holmes; I'd solved a case but it wasn't a question I was asking :-) Then I went to compile/install Quanta and lo an behold....error...iostream.h not found (grin). The plot thickens. I bopped over to GNU.org and can't find anything that appears to be an ANSI library. What's it called these days? I know they have one as I used several versions of it when we were all chasing the definition of that library. But that was on Solaris, not Linux. Can anyone help? A search name perhaps...preferably for binaries? Cheers --- Larry