I switched to Man 7.2 over the weekend and am very happy of having done so. The only problem I have left is getting proftpd fixed ...... These are the results I get .... I seems the process dies immediatley after it is started ..... Anybody have any suggestions ??? [root@bear /etc]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/proftpd restart Shutting down proftpd: Suspending NOW [FAILED] Starting proftpd: Allowing sessions again [ OK ] [root@bear /etc]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/proftpd status proftpd dead but pid file exists Ingo -- ************************************************* A positive thinker sees the invisible, feels the intangible and achieves the impossible *************************************************