hey Mark
Groovyness. Glad it didn't turn into total disaster.
on the subject of hardware -- since going with linux i've been learning more about
hardware. i wasn't really keep up with that side of things. when i bought the compaq
box i have now i had no idea there was such a thing as a "winmodem". when i found out
just what i had occupying space on com1 i was just stunned. good thing i found out
about 'winprinters' before i dropped some cash on that.
me thinks low quality hardware is probably the source of much pain in the linux
community. even to a newbie like me linux seems pretty easy to get along with if it
has a nice home.
laterz
Adrian Smith
'de telepone dude
Telecom Dept.
x 7042
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>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2:12:32 PM 12/7/00 >>>
Hi Adrian,
I found a pleasant surprise when I started loading Linux back onto my workstation
today. I had 7.2 running briefly, but because the hardware on that computer is SO
incompatible with Mandrake 7.2 a LOT of things were either broken or would not work at
all no matter what.
As I was looking around a hard drive that I was sure was wiped out, Lo and behold ALL
my data files and EVERYTHING that was on the /home partition was still there. I lost
literally everything on the windows side of the hard drive, but all my data on the
linux side survived. :) that was a VERY pleasant sight for my very sore eyes indeed!
At present I am busily re-installing Mandrake 7.1 back onto this workstation. Had that
one on there before running very well, except for Star Office, but all in all Mdk 7.1
works well on this machine.
It appears that most of the troubles I've had at least not withstanding the mess that
the installer caused yesterday, are hardware related due to the fact that the now
defunct Quantex company used very low standard quality hardware in their PC's, that is
almost so bad that I barely got Windows installed and running this morning.
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>From: "Adrian Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:05:23 -0700
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [newbie] InstallShield
>
>hey Mark --
>sorry to hear you had such a nasty turn of events. i rather wonder about this also.
>when i installed 7.0 everything worked great.
>
>when i installed 7.1 i had no printer and a persistent "failed" message on shut down.
>
>installed 7.2 yesterday --
>3 fail messages on start up
>4 fail messages on shut down
>LILO no work over 1024 cylinder
>number lock goes off when X starts
>i told the install program where to mount each partiton -- some of them it did
>exactly what i asked it to do, some others it put where it wanted them ?????
>i told X a resolution of 1024x768 (or whatever it is.... like i remember) but i got a
>resolution of 800x600 when i actually started up X
>i created a user account when installing yet when i booted the system first time,
>there were no user accounts, only root.
>had to boot into the console only mode - when i tried to use 'shutdown' to shutdown
>(duh) the system locked up & i had to power off.
>finally, all the files on my /home had a different owner once i got my user account
>created, so i gotta run around 3 partitions (/home /backup /home/skippi/work) and do
>a chown.
>the 7.2 install does seem to be a very bad animal.
>of course, my problems are not near the level of yours.
>
>i agree with the "don't fix what ain't broken thing" and i learned that yet again
>when i upgraded windows direct x 7 to direct x 8. now half my games don't work. oh
>well, i wanted to spend all weekend fixing my computer anyhow. =)
>
>i don't mind your venting. who knows, 7.0 may find it's way back to my computer if i
>can't fix all this stuff.
>
>Adrian Smith
>'de telepone dude
>Telecom Dept.
>x 7042
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6:35:54 PM 12/6/00 >>>
>Geez! I wish I would-a had one of those fancy install thing-a-ma-bobs this
>afternoon when an install attempt of Mandrake 7.2 wiped out my entire
>friggin workstation! Who's the nit wit responsible for so drastically
>changing the install program and process?
>
>When, during the first install, a few too many errors cause major problems
>with running the system after a rebooted, I restarted the install process.
>Sadly I didn't recognize what was happening till it was too late. The
>installation program, on it's own started an auto-install and in under 5
>seconds wiped my entire workstations hard drive. 10 friggin GB's of
>data...GONE!
>
>Never before in my life have a ever seen a program behave in such a
>severely BAD manner. It didn't ask me what I wanted; I, of course wanted
>to do an expert install where I have total control of everything that goes
>on. There's a certain way I want the OS installed for certain reasons.
>
>In a nut shell when I booted the system with the floppy that I used to
>boot the system the first time which went off without a hitch, the rotten
>bastard went straight into an auto-install.
>
>Mandrake, when you can make a mess of an experienced users machine like
>this I think it's time to take a look at a lesson that I again learned the
>hardway. If it isn't friggin broken...DON'T FRIGGIN TRY AND FIX IT. LEAVE
>things as they were when they WORKED!
>
>I'm refering to the installation process. A few KEY things were changed
>and just enough to cause a moments confusion which cost this user 10GB of
>data. Most is backed up on the servers, but there were still some things
>that I hadn't gotten to. Now I'm going to have to go back and RE-do the
>things that didn't get sent up to the server...not to mention I've got one
>HELL of a fight on my hands getting that beast backup.
>
>Thank you to the list for allowing me this chance to vent. It's pretty
>much final that 7.2 will NOT make it to my home PC. KDE2 & Koffice or not.
>Mandrake 7.2 is one Penguin that is going to be sanctioned with extreme
>prejudice!
>
>Mark
>
>/ * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat
> * in order to get the rats up from below decks
> * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned!
> *
> * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496
> */
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