So now I can use it for a web browser :) There were a few glitches in the install, but it all worked. Many thanks to Brian Masney who wrote gFTP that made it easy to get all the files, even recovering from a bunch of disconnects :) Here are the instructions I found on the web at Deja News. I fixed them up a bit..... Subject: Re: Still trying to get kde 2.1 beta to go Date: 01/03/2001 Author: sgt_d <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> i saw some instructions for kde 2.0.1 that seem to work for kde 2.1. i created a directory for the rpms and download all them to it. i logout, then click shutdown -> console mode -> ok. hit enter once and login as a normal user then... su (use root password) cd to the directory where the rpm's are rpm -F --force --nodeps *.rpm rpm --rebuilddb update-menus -v wait for it to finish... shutdown -r now everything works fine for me then __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/