OK, lets just try the first upgrade and see if that will work. Sorry, thanks for playing but no upgrade for you..... error: failed dependencies: kdelibs = 2.0 is needed by kdelibs-sound-2.0-5mdk I downloaded kdelibs-2.01-2mdk.i586.rpm and it is sitting in the download directory w/all the other files? Now what? This is the same problem I run into if I use DrakConf, Software Update: Kdelibs & Kdesound Licq & gtk+licq. each says it needs the other. I am smiling see :-) , not mad.