i have a feeling that my problem may not be linux per se but i would be gratefull for any insights... i have lm 8.0 (freq3 plus cooker kde2.2) if i try to play my copy of pomegranate by heidi berry in grip it just cycles through the track titles and doesn't play anything, the cd is brand new and plays fine in kcd (or whatever it's called these days), this means that i can't rip the tracks to mp3 either and that's annoying, the thing is though that my new primitives cd plays and rips fine in grip so it must be set up right, further investigation show that the heidi berry cd is an 'enhanced cd' and i'm thinking that the data track may be first on the cd and confusing grip but not kcd, so, two questions: 1. how in linux, do i see a list of tracktypes and their order? 2. anyone know how i might get grip to work in this case? bascule
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