one page I found with lots 'o help is 
"http://theory.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html";

On Sunday 25 November 2001 22:25, you wrote:






> In a follow up to this problem...
>
> Formatted and started all over again and am still running into the same
> problem except it is even worse now.
>
> If i use netconf to do any thing with the ppp0 scripts pppd begins to fail
> with error #17. (Thank god again for backups!)
>
> Also, any pppX scripts that i make with netconf fail with the same error
> message.
>
> Right now the only ppp dial up script that can be used is the one i
> generate during installation and if i use netconf to make any changes to it
> it begins to fail and keeps failing even when i go back in netconf and undo
> the changes i made. The only way i can get the ppp0 script to work after
> using netconf is to restore the backup i made of the network scripts
> directory.
>
> Am i missing some part of netconf or a library or something? I installed
> from a CD I burned after downloading the ISO image right after 8.0 came out
> and i know that the burner didnt burn "tin" correctly, could it have messed
> up burning something else? if so what? Or am i going about this all wrong
> and should not be using netconf to generate ppp dial up scripts?
>
> On an aside, netconf seems to work flawlessly when configuring LAN nics.
>
> On another aside, I found an answer to the automount question i had.
>
> Thanks again,
> Ian K. Harrell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Ian K.Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I installed LM8.0 on a computer at work and ran into a problem.
> >
> > During installation i configured a dialup (ppp0) account to our ISP using
> > a 3com external modem on ttys0
> >
> > After rebooting and loading into linux for the first time i made sure
> > that
>
> the
>
> > dialup account worked by logging in as root and running /sbin/ifup ppp0.
>
> This
>
> > part went fine.
> >
> > I made a few backups (thank god!) and went into netconf to change ppp0 so
>
> that
>
> > it could be controlled by any user. This was the only change made and
>
> netconf
>
> > did not report any errors but now when anyone, root or a regular user,
>
> tries
>
> > to run /sbin/ifup ppp0 the pppd daemon exits with either error #6 unable
> > to lock the serial port, error #8 connection script failed, or error #17
> > which
>
> is
>
> > serial loopback detection. The most common is error #17. The other 2 show
>
> up
>
> > about 1 time in 10.
> >
> > After tring /sbin/ifup ppp0 about 100 times and double checking
> > everything over and over again I finally gave up for the day and went
> > back into
>
> netconf
>
> > and changed it so that regular users could not control the device. Then
>
> went
>
> > back and tried /sbin/ifup ppp0 and it started exiting with the same
> > errors.
> >
> > Being totally frustrated i restored the backup i had made of /etc and
> > then tried /sbin/ifup ppp0. It worked flawlessly. I then went home and
> > ate
>
> turkey,
>
> > mashed potatoes with gravy and washed it all down with a few cold ones
>
> while
>
> > watching football. Man what a way to alleviate stress. :)
> >
> > Came back in this morning and performed a format and complete reinstall
>
> only
>
> > to run through the same problems all over again.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas on what is wrong and how to fix it?
> >
> > On another note, I was considering installing LM8.1 but has read
> > somewhere
>
> on
>
> > this list previously that Mandrake had broken the automount. Is there a
>
> patch
>
> > out yet that corrects this?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Ian K. Harrell
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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