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>>2/3/02 11:44:19 AM, Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>>On Sunday 03 February 2002 16:31, Marc Oestreicher wrote:
>>>>     Hi I am brand new to linux.
>>>Welcome to Linux.  It;s a lot of fun. You will be amazed at how good it 
>>>is....but.. there is a lot to learn.  Signing up for this list is a good 
>>>start..
>>>
>>>SNIP
>>>> The only way that I could find to get out of it was to shut off the power
>>>> switch. 
>>>First thing to learn is to avoid shutting down with the power switch. Thats 
>>>'Windows thinking'
>>>If Linux has one weakness it is that it does not like sudden power downs 
>>>especially if you installed with the default Ext2 file system)  (Search this 
>>>list archive for instructions on upgrading to Ext3 if you have not already 
>>>done so http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/  )
>>>
>>>If you cannot shut down any other way then hit keys in this sequence :-
>>>
>>>Alt+Sysreq+r    (sysreq is above your 'Insert' key)  to go into 'eaw' 
>>>keyboard mode.
>>>Alt+Sysreq+t   to close all open applications
>>>Alt+Sysreq+s  to write unsaved data to disc
>>>Alt+Sysreq+b to reboot.
>>>
>>>Your shutdown will then be graceful and you will not corrupt your discs.
>>>
>         THANKS  Alt Sysreq b  Got me out of the lockup on shutdown
>>>
>>>After doing some research I found that portmap was not needed and
>>>> shut it off. but still got modem is busy message and then found that on
>>>> shutdown the machine locked on (  stopping internet connection if needed  )
>>>> again the only way I could find to get out of it was to use the power
>>>> switch!
>>>
>        I discovered the interactive startup function ( pressing the   I    key while 
>starting up )
>        And disadled the usb devices at startup however that made no diferance, I 
>then tried to 
>disable other things one at a time on     following startups. Wen I got to Sys Log 
>and shut it 
off 
>the machine did not lockup on the next  shutdown  However I still want to find a 
>better fix. so 
>that I dont have to do a interactive startup each time.
>        Also it seems to me that by disableing Sys Log I am probably masking the 
>problem 
rather 
>than fixing it. >>For the lock up there are a couple of possibilities.
>>>First there is a known problem with usb interfaces causing lock up on power 
>>>down. Check this out http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1321&lang=en
>>>
>>>Secondly,  some users have reported that they get lock ups when shutting down 
>>>network services. I do not remember the exact fix, but I am sure someone will.
>>>Are we talking about Dial up or Ethernet here?
>>          Just Dial up   Nothing fancy until I figure out the basic stuff.
>             In desperation and after a few things going well for a change causeing
>             Me to lose some of my linux fear I started to mess around with the modem 
>settings
>            And in the KDE desktop tried   Internet    KPPP    Setup     Device
>            Change Modem To    /dev/ttys2  That got rid of the modem is busy problem
>            And gave me a modem is ready message  then a modem doesn't respond 
>message.
>            It still dosen't work but at least I am getting a message that makes some 
>sense!!
>            I am guessing that I may have to install a driver to get the modem 
>working the
>           rest of the way     I HOPE   I also got a ISA internal hardware modem from 
>my 
>neighbor this afternoon
>           that may be a better way to go but I havent figured that out for shure yet.
>           Any Ideas as to if I am ON THE RIGHT TRACK or not ???
>
>
>>>>   I next tried a new modem with the intel ham m chipset, it is suposed to
>>>> be a 90% hardware modem and work with Linux. and still the same problem.
>>>
>>>What type of modem?  Make, model?, PCI or ISA? Internal or External?
>>>
>             Intel V.90/56K intenal PCI fax modem  MD563X-HaM chipset
>>>>  I then thought that hard drake would autodetect the modem if I reinsalled,
>>>> so I deleted the linux partisions in windoze with partion magic and
>>>> reinstalled Mandrake 8.1 from scratch and had the same problems,
>>>
>>>Linux scans for new hardware everytime it boots. You do not need to reinstall 
>>>to make it do a detection.
>>>
>>>
>>>> and once
>>>> again shut off portmap. Then still had the same problems as before.
>>>
>>>Many modem problems turn out to be IRQ conflict problems. Try reassigning IRQ 
>>>lines in your BIOS. Avoid any devices sharing IRQ's
>
>
>   I Just tried that with no sucess .
>     However the advise tht you have given me this far HAS BEEN A BIG HELP!!!!!
>     All my linux problems have not been solved yet but some have and your advise has 
>given 
>me a few new
>     things to think about and reserch.  That a least provides a light at the end of 
>the tunnel!!!!
>     
>     THANKS  
>     Marc
>>>
>>>derek
>>>
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