Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Monday 10 June 2002 1:05 am, Mark D. Weaver wrote:
>
>>Derek Jennings wrote:
>>
>>>Just as I pressed 'send' on that last message I realised you are
>>>upgrading from Mandrake 8.1 with KDE2.2.1
>>>
>>>You can still upgrade to KDE3, but you will not be able to use any of
>>>Texstars' KDE3 RPMs since they are for 8.2
>>>
>>>derek
>>
>>Derek,
>>
>>I realize this is a few days late, but I thought I'd add my two cents to
>>this thread. I've got Mandrake 8.2 running and it took three installs,
>>the last one being done without kde at all in order to get kde301
>>installed and working on this machine. I don't know what they've done to
>>KDE to make thing so miserable the packages so impossible to install,
>>but I'd love to find out.
>>
>>The first two attempts completely destroyed the X server rendering the
>>box concole only. The last install, as I mentioned was done on the
>>machine where KDE didn't exist at all and even then it was a HUGE pain
>>in the ass to get the packages to install. two days worth of dependency
>>issues to resolve and even after ALL the dependency issue were taken
>>care of would run the package install with the --test argument and it
>>would tell me that it such and such a package conflicted with one of the
>>kde3 packages I was trying to install. (as I mentioned I installed the
>>system "without" KDE). the fact that it was complaining about file
>>conflicts between a "non-existant" kde installation and the one I was
>>attempting to UPGRADE to was more then I could bear.
>>
>>Since I knew there weren't any real reasons for there to be a problem I
>>decided to go ahead with the install. while I didn't have to use the
>>--force argument I did have to use a very similarly forceful means to
>>get the packages to install. and through it all urpmi not only was NOT
>>my friend but was completely useless.
>>
>>the final command with which to install everything looked like this:
>>
>> rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs --replacefiles --nodeps *.rpm
>>
>>So, my one and only question here is what in the world happened to kde
>>and those packages that they're so miserable to install these days? I
>>was expecting the texstar packages to be faster performing, and they
>>are, but as they are a newbie would never be able to get these things
>>installed without killing their system and wanting to walk away from
>>this bad experience forever!
>>
>>Mark
>
>
> Yes, the experience of installing KDE3 has been mixed for many people. With my
> install it took me the best part of 2 days to get everything installed. Most
> of that time was spent 'disentangling' KDE2 and KDE3 (Try looking at the
> 'About' tab in applications like kmixer for example) Moving KDE3 to /opt
> has caused a lot of the problems. Many of the scripts still call applications
> in /usr so you end with a mixture of KDE2 and 3.
> Texstar has got a revised 'startkde' script which resolves that. Also if you
> want to use KDE3's version of kdm :-
> Edit /etc/X11/prefdm
> to set the PATH
> PATH=/opt/kde3/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
>
> on the next boot it will find kde3 kdm
>
>
> KDE3 is clearly still 'work in progress', which of course is why Mandrake were
> right in not including it in the 8.2 release. Be prepared to spend some time
> struggling with it.
>
> derek
>
Thankfully, since the install is complete it's been fine since. not a
bit of trouble.
Mark
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