----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] CPU Temperature


> SNIP
> >
> >      Checking cpu temp in bios is absolutely the worst indicator.
> > The system is under very little load.  lm_sensors while the OS an
> > software are up an running is the only way to check for extreme
> > temps under high load. As, for example, with (torture test)
> > ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/mprime2413.tar.gz
>
> I disagree.  The temperature read out of lm_sensors has to be set up for
each
> motherboard. The readings from an install of lm_sensors is often wildly
> inaccurate.  The mobo manufacturer will have set up the BIOS temp readings
to
> be accurate (if they have done their job properly) When configuring
> lm_sensors the readout should be compared to the BIOS and a temperature
probe
> if available.
>
> SNIP
>
> >
> >       Going back to what I've said above **, software attempts at
> > cpu cooling are a very bad strategy.  When the system is under high
> > to 100% load they have no effect, as no HLTS are being sent to the
> > processor. When the system is under light load, HLTS are sent
> > directly, an the cpu cools rapidly to an artificially low core temp.
> >   This increases the range of the heat/cool cycle that can cause cpu
> > core trace migration, an can result in permanent damage. Also the
> > chipset is not being artificially cooled, an motherboard damage is
> > more likely. This is why, using athcool as an example, the author
> > issues this disclaimer :
>
> True, both  Athcool and speedstepping will cause the CPU temperature to
vary,
> but that is better than having the OPs computer shut itself down after 30
> mins.
> I note also that Athcool's author does not list "Core trace migration" as
a
> risk when using athcool.
>
>
> > Before use athcool, you must recognize these potential DANGERS.
> > Please use athcool AT YOUR OWN RISK.
> >
> Athcool does not work on all mobos and versions of Athlon. I have an old
> Athlon T-Bird where it makes the system unstable.
>
> Most recent  Athlon  mobos should work fine. After all athcool is simply
using
> the feature AMD put into the Athlon for the purpose of reducing power
> consumption. Are you saying AMD do not know about CPUs ?
>
> Where I do agree with you is for the need of the CPU heatsink and case
cooling
> to be adequate for the heat produced at full load.
>
> derek
>
> --
> www.jennings.homelinux.net
> http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org
>
>
First of all, sorry for the late reply. I've been extremely busy.

Many thanks for all your suggestions. I've tried to cool the case down by
pointing a fan directly into it. This made Mandriva last about 45 mins
instead of 30 mins before telling me the temperature was too high.

Is Mandriva using the CPU a lot more than Windows? As I said in my original
post, Windows doesnt seem to go over 56 degrees and it's been running 24/7
for weeks at a time. Mandriva runs for between 30 and 45 mins and the
temperature skyrockets.



I'm too poor to upgrade my system at the moment. Guess I'm gonna be stuck
with Windows for a while :(:(:(

I really want to start learning Mandriva Linux.

I've tried Fedora Core 4. But I didn't like it all that much. Mandriva seems
to be the best I can find.



Many thanks for your help.



Al



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