On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 10:05:57 +0000 John Layt got an infinite number of monkeys to type out:
> > Basically, I'm worried that Mandriva is spending more time making KDE > > 'friendly' to Windows users, and less time just making the OS work as it > > should. I'm *hoping* someone is going to tell me I'm way off base on this, > > which they usually do ;-) > > My concern is that Mandriva are in fact moving in the opposite direction, i.e. > making everything more Gnome dependent, a lot of the stuff under the hood, > like MCC and the HAL/DBUS/hot-plugging stuff is all Gtk/Gnome and has nothing > to do with K. All that pop-up windows stuff when adding media stuff is 100% > gnome based projects. Did not know that. See, I knew someone would set me straight! > I doubt the Gtk/Gnome crowd would ever write a CD burning app that requires > KDE code, or any app for that matter. So unless Mandriva re-write rpm to > block installing non-KDE apps, I think your paranoia is misplaced. If > Mandriva does go that extreme, you could always go Ubuntu/Fedora/whatever, > there will always be choices. Um, Ubuntu sets up the first user to log on as the 'Admin' (yikes!) and Fedora...well, from the hell that I see people going through on other lists... I *want* to stick with Mandriva, it's been very good to me. Hell, I even shelled out 120 bucks for a Silver membership. I love urpmi, I love PLF, and Debian seems, well, boring. Good for an old server box, but... > K has far less hardware/os integration going on then Gnome at the moment, > something to remember about KDE is that it aims to be multi-OS, i.e. it runs > on the BSD's, Solaris, and others as well, so needs to be OS independent, > manys the argument that goes on when code is introduced that is non-portable. > > Hey, and I'm not sure this is worth bragging about, come KDE4/QT4 K will even > run on top of windows! I heard. Eeeeewwww. Like putting perfume on a pig. > For example, on the sound side of things, you may be happy to know that arts > will be taken out and shot in KDE4, replaced by... nothing! K decided they > are a Desktop project, not a Sound Server project, they will leave that to > teh experts and will just provide a thin layer plugin system so the user can > choose whatever sound server they want, gstreamer, esound, nmm, whatever. > Same goes for other hardware integration, they will use whatever services are > provided by the OS, not force their own hardware integration onto the OS. Good to know. > Part of KDE4 is also splitting their libraries up to be even smaller, less > interdependent so even if you choose to use a KDE app for one thing on > another DM, even fewer libraries will need to be loaded. Of course, if you > choose to use a K app, then you should expect that it will load the services > it needs to be running to work. > > Anyway, enough ranting, it's brunch-time! You've earned it! That wasn't even a rant, that was very informative. Thanks for giving me the low down, John. See? That's why I hang out here, so people can assuage my paranoid delusions. -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ All that we are is the result of what we have thought. -- Buddha
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