On Sat 03 Dec 2005 13:32, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> Oh...? - Could be a matter of different keyboards ?
>
> On my (Danish) keyboard I have the AltGr key in the nearest (to me) row
> next to the spacebar (right side). I'm pretty sure there must be an 
>  AltGr key somewhere on yours too. Press that together with the e key and 
> tell me what happens ?
>
> If that doesn't work, maybe you have the charset wrong, like iso-8859-1
> or some such. In order to display the € (euro) sign, you must set the
> charset to iso-8859-15 or UTF. You can do that in the editor settings.      

There is a keyboard difference. On mine (US), there is no key labeled AltGr, 
but there are two Alt keys (labeled simply with those three letters), one 
on either side of the spacebar.

Whether composing in Kmail or in Kwrite, either Alt key has the same 
behavior it has in MS Windows, selecting whichever menu (second window line 
from the top) item corresponds to the next key pressed with it. Thus Alt-e 
brings up the Edit drop down menu. Alt-x, where x is any letter other than 
one of those which starts a menu item, results in no action.

Starting on the very left of the row of keys closest to me, the keys of the 
main part of the keyboard are:

1. the left control key, labeled Ctrl

2. the left windows key, labeled not with letters but with the MS Windows 
logo

3. the left alternate key, labeled Alt

4. the space bar

5. the right alternate key, labeled Alt

6. the right windows key, labeled not with letters but with the MS Windows 
logo

7. the drop-down-menu key, labeled not with letters but with the MS Windows 
drop-down-menu icon

8. the right control key, labeled Ctrl

I did some playing around.  Here's what happened:

None of these keys, pressed in concert with e, produces a €.  By the way, I 
produced the € here by copying/pasting from your message, so I have a 
workaround.

Either Alt key with e always brings up the Edit drop down menu.

Either Ctrl key with e in Kmail puts the cursor at the end of the current 
line.  In Kwrite it selects centered text.

The two windows keys with e act slightly differently and their actions seem 
unpredictable.  Sometimes nothing, sometimes the Edit drop down menu, 
sometimes an e.  The differences seem to depend on which keys were pressed 
previously and how many times in succession you press the e.  I'm leaving 
figuring that out for a later time.  In MS DOS, there's a utility program - 
I forget the name - that shows, when you press a key or key combination, 
what the two-byte code is that's being sent to the BIOS.  There's got to be 
an equivalent Linux program.

The drop-down-menu key always gets what I'm used to calling a context menu, 
that which I get with a right-click of my trackball.

I don't know what character set I'm using, but since I can display the €, 
I'm happy for the moment on that, and thanks again for putting the € in 
your message, thus giving me a convenient workaround.

Later . . . Terry
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